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So a number of years ago we did this episode

that we called Just Sing the Damn Song.

Just Sing the Damn Song.

It was basically this debate over Speak Singing.

You know, Speak Singing versus more melodic singing.

You know, I've always preferred really strong melodies. It's melody is the thing that I come to first.

I don't really like speak singing. I like rap, but I don't like that sort of monotone

speak singing. You hear like in a lot of 80s new wave music, you know, that's sort of that da da da da da da da da da da da.

You know, I always come to melody first, then maybe production and progression and then like lyrics last.

Sheldon Pierce, where do you come down on this great divide?

Yeah, you know, I think it has its place.

Squid is one of my favorite bands and I think Chays Lons by Wetleg is probably one of the best songs of the decade so far.

So I'm partial to the practice.

I can see how it can be very annoying especially if you're looking for a

certain kind of thing out of your music but I also think it can be disarming in a

way that is sort of really affecting for a certain kind of song.

It has to be deployed just right obviously.

And sometimes a hint of irony can help, but generally I'm all for sort of letting artists like probe that side of their brain.

Yeah, I think one of the reasons it started to emerge is, know somebody did it first and other artists

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