I'm Jeffrey Rosen, President and CEO of the National Constitution Center, and welcome to We The People, a weekly show of constitutional debate.

The National Constitution Center is the only institution in America chartered by Congress to disseminate information about the US Constitution on a nonpartisan basis.

And on today's show, recorded one day after the New Hampshire primary, we turn our attention once again to the constitutional issues raised by the 2016 presidential campaign.

Here to provide us with context and commentary are two members of the National Constitution

Centers Distinguished and Illuminating Coalition

Freedom Advisory Board returning champions on We The People.

Ilia Shapiro is Senior Fellow in Constitutional Studies at the Cato Institute in Washington,

and editor-in-chief of the Cato Supreme Court Review.

Michael Dorff is the Robert S Stevens Professor of Law

at Cornell University Law School.

Ilia and Mike.

Welcome back. It's so great to have you.

Good to be here.

It's good to be on the morning after a political earthquake of sorts of New Hampshire.

Speaking of political earthquakes, I want to ask you a question about the Constitution and

the election.

Some have suggested that the populist strains were seeing in American politics, from Donald Trump on the right to Bernie Sanders on the left,

are part of a tradition of populism in the an anti-constitutional strain to the campaigns of both Trump and Sanders and how does that work

out historically?

Well I'm not sure Donald Trump has really read much constitutional theory, probably not a follower of our podcast unfortunately

Bernie Sanders as well and I imagine that the end's justify the means and

there are urgent problems in the country that need to be solved and kind of in a Wolsonian view

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