Hi, everyone. It's 4 o'clock in New York. One can fairly

and objectively describe him as an attack dog, a lackey, a loyalist and a true believer,

but no one can deny his ongoing centrality to Donald Trump's conduct.

After today, we can likely also describe him as a key witness into the multiple criminal

investigations threatening Donald J. Trump. Today, when Jack met Boris, Boris Epstein,

that is, one of the central figures in today's Trump world is sitting down with prosecutors

from Special Counsel Jack Smith's office. It is a development that is sure to inspire questions

about where either one of those two criminal probes investigating the disgraced ex-presidents'

conduct is heading. The New York Times reports this, quote, given his expansive ties to Trump,

Mr. Epstein is in a position to provide information in both of the investigations that Mr.

Smith is overseeing. One focused on Trump's efforts to retain power after losing the 2020 election.

The other centered on his handling of classified documents after he left the White House.

Until recently, Mr. Epstein played a critical role coordinating Trump's legal efforts in both

inquiries. It is difficult to overstate his place in Donald Trump's inner circle at this very

moment. He was even seen alongside Trump at his arraignment in Manhattan earlier this month.

His testimony could lead prosecutors to a wealth of useful information on some of the issues

that they are zeroing in on. When it comes to January 6, the Times reports this, quote,

he's been linked to a critical element of Trump's bid to hold on to power.

The effort to name sleights of electors pledged to Trump from swing states that were actually one

by Joe Biden. Here he is on MSNBC last year with our colleague, Ari Melver, admitting to his role

in helping to set up fake sleights of electors. Watch.

There's also been reporting about the attempt to seat fraudulent electors.

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