Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the conspiracy farm.

Where we don't start the conspiracies, we just add the water.

And now, your host of the most state-of-the-art, most informed podcasts on the interweb,

I present to you, Pet Militage and Jeffrey Wilson.

Ladies and gentlemen, are you ready for war?

Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, are you ready for war? All set, let's go, ladies and gentlemen, off to the races, another big show, the conspiracy farm for the archives, Jeffrey Wilson, right here, writing shotgun with my partner in crime. UFC Hall of Famer, Patrick J. Militich.

How are we doing this afternoon, champ?

I'm doing superb.

We have an excellent guest, a mogul, certainly fits this guy, the name mogul.

And look, if we can help his presidential run by having him on, great.

But more than anything else, I think he's just a very interesting guy who's led an incredible

life.

And I just want to hear about it, to be honest with you.

I mean, without a doubt, the guys lived, you know, multiple lifetimes in one life.

You probably have his antivirus software on your computer right now.

He was locking down McAfee and associate starting in 1987. Kind of really was the frontier pioneer of antivirus software, et cetera, et cetera.

He's gone on to do many, many of great things. Like I said, he's lived multiple lives in one

lifetime. He has his hands full right now with the U.S. government. And we're going to talk a little

bit about it. And also his presidential campaign and whatever else he has going on john mackoffey how are you doing today sir well i'm doing

incredible considering i've got the world on my shoulders and i'm not i'm not new to that it's

been most of my life but both my wife janice and myself are doing spectacular. And I'm happy to be

on the show. Well, and I appreciate it. Like I said, I know you got your hands full, so I appreciate

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