I'm 57. I come from a family which is very

die hard for the public and it doesn't matter who's elected.

It drives me up a wall that the Democrats have put so much money into these far right

of, you know, Republican gandigates.

He's just way too extreme and he's just so off-putting.

I've been a Republican for 45 years. We don't like the government up in our business.

Don't reverse, reverse, leave. That's about a control, it's about controlling women.

Then I also was kind of upset about it. President Biden did recently, he forgave all the loans

and I really scrimped and I saved and I sacrificed my, my home, my car. I drove a crappy car for years

and I paved my loans and I'm really angry about that.

It's Notes from America, I'm Kai Wright and welcome to the show.

All of those voices you just heard were from voters and focus groups held in key states

in recent weeks. They're focus groups convened by Sarah Longwell, who is publisher of the

bull work. She's been listening to voters and these groups throughout this whole election

cycle and in each one, she collects a distinct group. Democratic voters died in the wool

mogga voters and then this third fascinating group, the modern day swing voter, which

for Sarah is someone who voted for Donald Trump in 2016 and then Joe Biden in 2020.

We had Sarah Longwell on way back at the start of the primaries so we've brought her back

now for our final show before election day to check in on these focus groups. Sarah,

hey again. Hey, happy to be here. Thanks for having me.

And just so listeners understand, you do have a particular interest here. Yes, you're

doing this work for your podcasts at the bull work, which by the way is called the focus

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