The conservative roots behind the Chevron doctrine
The Indicator from Planet Money
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🗓️ 17 July 2024
⏱️ 11 minutes
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Summary
Now, a recent Supreme Court decision has set in motion another tectonic shift, effectively ending that precedent. Today, we dig into what Chevron deference is and how it actually came about. Then tomorrow we'll continue our focus on this significant change by looking at the potential fallout.
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| 0:00.0 | NPR. |
| 0:03.0 | In the |
| 0:05.0 | In June, In June, |
| 0:08.0 | in June |
| 0:12.0 | in June in June we saw an earthquake in the way the government works in the US. |
| 0:16.0 | The 40-year legal precedent called Chevron deference was overturned by the Supreme Court. |
| 0:22.0 | Instead of government agencies getting the benefit of the doubt |
| 0:25.1 | when they're working with a vague law, |
| 0:27.0 | now the courts make the final interpretation. |
| 0:30.4 | The decision was 15,000 words long, many pages with tons of legal footnotes, very complex stuff. |
| 0:38.0 | So we challenged a law professor to try and explain what happened to an 11 year old. |
| 0:43.4 | Hi Emerson. |
| 0:44.4 | Hello. |
| 0:45.4 | That is Lisa Heinserling, law professor at Georgetown University, |
| 0:49.2 | speaking with Emerson Medina. |
| 0:51.1 | Do you ever have video games where all of a sudden, like a really important rule, changed. |
| 0:58.1 | You no longer win if you do this, you lose. |
| 1:01.1 | That's so mean. In other words, federal agencies can't know whether their interpretations of the law are right anymore. |
| 1:08.0 | And what if when they did that, they said, there's a new rule, but we're not really going to explain it that much. |
| 1:15.0 | Why? But we'll tell you if you get it wrong. |
| 1:18.0 | I don't want to get it wrong. Can you just tell me? |
| 1:22.0 | Exactly! Okay, that's not a terrible... wrong. Can you just tell me? Exactly. |
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