The Conservative Civil War Has Begun
Making the Argument with Nick Freitas
Nick Freitas
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🗓️ 13 May 2025
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
It’s happening. The conservative movement is splitting right down the middle. On one side, you’ve got the postliberals, nationalists, and traditionalists who say it’s time to drop the mask, use state power, and finally fight the Left for real. And on the other side are the classical liberals and libertarians, warning that once you abandon principle, you’ve already lost.
They call it the “Woke Right.” But is that label fair, or is it just a desperate attempt to control the Right?
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everyone, and welcome back to making the argument. Today we have got an interesting |
| 0:04.2 | topic for you. We're going to be discussing the ongoing civil war that we're starting |
| 0:08.8 | to see within the right. Now, look, we've always been in a civil war on the right. And part |
| 0:15.4 | of that is, I think, because when you look at conservative politics, when you look at right-wing |
| 0:19.6 | politics, especially in the sort of the American tradition and the, in the UK tradition, there's always been this component of individualism. And whenever you look at something like that, you're going to have people that don't necessarily just follow the party line. And so we're going to have internal debates and discussions. And that is not necessarily an unhealthy thing. |
| 0:38.2 | But we are running into a bigger concern right now is the current debate going on within |
| 0:43.1 | the right unhealthy or is it one that desperately needs to be had? Because on one side, you have |
| 0:48.5 | the traditional defenders of what we might call classical liberalism. We're not talking about |
| 0:53.7 | modern liberal. We're talking about classical liberalism, We're not talking about modern liberal, |
| 0:54.2 | we're talking about classical liberalism, |
| 0:55.5 | the idea of not just freedom of inquiry, |
| 0:58.5 | but representative government, |
| 0:59.7 | of trying to avoid the concentration of power. |
| 1:01.7 | If you look at various thinkers like John Locke, |
| 1:04.6 | David Hume, other people within kind of the Enlightenment movement, |
| 1:08.1 | you'll find kind of a vast array of this classical liberalism. But then you will also have various groups that are breaking down into categories, |
| 1:14.9 | which you might call everything from neo-reactionary, post-liberal, traditionalists, that are |
| 1:19.7 | essentially saying that, look, classical liberalism has failed to defend itself against |
| 1:25.0 | kind of the woke mob that we're seeing right now. But then the other side |
| 1:29.0 | responds with, well, now you're just operating like the woke right. And what we're going to be |
| 1:33.8 | discussing today is this term, the woke right. And we're going to use that to kind of highlight |
| 1:40.4 | this, this broader debate that is going on within the right, in the West. |
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