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This is On Point. I'm Megna Chakrabardi.

So Rob Amari has stellar conservative bona fides, I'm sure.

One of you out there will email me to let me know which is the right pronouncer.

He's founder and editor of Compact Magazine, a contributing editor of the American Conservative,

a visiting fellow at the Veritas Center for Ethics in Public Life at Franciscan University.

He also spent years as an op-ed editor at the New York Post and a columnist and editor in the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal.

Now, that last one, especially, isn't exactly known as a bastion of pro-labor anti-capitalist conviction.

It's pretty much the exact opposite.

And yet, Amari joins us today to make the conservative case

for increasing the power of American labor

in order to strike a greater balance against the cruel vagaries of pure market forces.

He's also author of Tyranny, Inc.

How Private Power Crushed American Liberty and What to Do About It.

So, Rob Amari, welcome to On Point.

Thanks for having me.

You know, I find that these days labels in American life and American political life are pretty challenging things.

So I'd like to actually start first by setting some common definitions for us to work from.

How would you define conservatism or perhaps more specifically your conservatism?

Sure. I would say that it's a commitment to trying to maintain ordered continuity.

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