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The Minimalists

The Connection Between Stuff and Depression

The Minimalists

Joshua Fields Millburn

Home & Garden, Society & Culture, Philosophy, Leisure

4.711.5K Ratings

🗓️ 25 October 2019

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

Joshua and Ryan discuss how the things in our lives can contribute to depression with author Johann Hari. Listen to “Maximal” episodes of The Minimalists Private Podcast exclusively at patreon.com/theminimalists

Transcript

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0:00.0

I just forgot to add that words.

0:02.0

Hahahaha.

0:04.0

Alright, before we dive into this episode, the minimalist one to help you declutter your glowing screen.

0:09.0

So head on over to theminimlists.com slash wallpapers to download any of our free minimalist wallpapers,

0:16.0

including our love people use things wallpapers for your smartphone or computer.

0:22.0

Enjoy.

0:24.0

Mattisons asking how does our obsession with material possessions make us more anxious, depressed, and lonely, and what's the solution?

0:35.0

So I think we touched on this a little bit, but these are the junk values that you talk about.

0:40.0

And Ryan and I often talk about the material possessions, our physical manifestation of really what's going on inside us.

0:48.0

We have this internal clutter, mental clutter, psychological clutter, spiritual clutter, whatever you want to call it, and it manifests outwardly.

0:55.0

The average American household has 300,000 items in it, and we find if all these things were making us happier, but they seem to be doing the opposite.

1:03.0

Be finite they were all books.

1:05.0

But then I said, yeah, and I thought, yeah, freedom.

1:10.0

Exactly.

1:11.0

I kind of yesterday I went into the last bookstore, that gorgeous bookstore.

1:15.0

Yeah, I've got quite a few torsabs there.

1:17.0

I love that place.

1:18.0

One of the things that really enrages me and ideally snaps these people, and I thought this is a sign that I'm just tired because I've been traveling so much,

1:24.0

is people who go into that store to take photographs of themselves in front of the books rather than fucking buy a book?

1:30.0

And I want to just go, yeah, the knowledge doesn't fucking transmit into your brain through the Instagram picture you're taking.

1:36.0

That second floor is art though, man.

1:38.0

It is amazing.

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