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Please do not apply any of this information without first speaking with your doctor. Now let's head to the show. Today I speak with

Dr. Todd Madaris about the connection or the potential connection between Lyme and the gut.

And the main probe I wanted to explore here was, could there be a subset of people

with chronic gut symptoms for whom the underlying cause of those gut symptoms is lime or some

lime co-infection? So that is a topic that we explore today. And I was really appreciative of

Todd's perspective on this. And we discussed the connection, of course, between lime and the gut,

which can be challenging to untangle, especially when considering that antibiotics are used to

treat lime and they may have a carryover benefit on the gut. It's also

potentially possible that antibiotics could make the gut worse and create gut symptoms in someone who

hasn't well tolerated some of the antibiotics that are used for lime. There was a bit of a tie-in with mold also,

and he helped provide some guideposts

or, I guess, hierarchy guidelines for,

if you have multiple things to pursue,

gut, mold, lime, where do you start? And is there perhaps a more efficient sequence

that one should be working through? And we also discuss some of the ambiguity in mold testing

and his preferred methodology for lime testing. I didn't have a chance to completely vocalize some of my gripes with the lime field,

mainly because I had another interview scheduled.

So I had a kind of curtail or cut some of those.

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