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Guerrilla History

The Congo - From Colonization Through Lumumba & Mobutu w/ Georges Nzongola-Ntalaja (AR&D Ep. 5)

Guerrilla History

Henry

Education, History

4.8622 Ratings

🗓️ 21 March 2025

⏱️ 95 minutes

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Summary

With this episode of Guerrilla History, were continuing our series on African Revolutions and Decolonization with an outstanding case study on the Congo, looking at the process of colonization, how decolonization unfolded, Lumumba's short time as Prime Minister, and the transition to the Mobutu regime.  We really could not ask for a much better guest than Prof. Georges Nzongola-Ntalaja, who not only is one of the foremost experts in not only this history, but also served as a diplomat for the DRC.  We're also fortunate that the professor will be rejoining us for the next installment of the series, a dispatch on what is going on in the Eastern Congo and the roots of the ongoing conflict there.  Be sure to share this series with comrades, we are still in the very early phases of the planned ~40 parts, so it is a great time for them to start listening in as well!
 
Also subscribe to our Substack (free!) to keep up to date with what we are doing.  With so many episodes coming in this series (and beyond), you won't want to miss anything, so get the updates straight to your inbox.  guerrillahistory.substack.com
 
Georges Nzongola-Ntalaja is Professor Emeritus of African and Afro-American Studies at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, and previously served as the DRC's Permanent Representative to the United Nations.  Additionally, he is the author of numerous brilliant books, including Patrice Lumumba and The Congo from Leopold to Kabila: A People's History

Help support the show by signing up to our patreon, where you also will get bonus content: https://www.patreon.com/guerrillahistory 

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You didn't remember Den Van Boo?

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No!

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The same thing happened in Algeria, in Africa.

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They didn't have anything but a rank.

0:17.0

The French had all these highly mechanized instruments of warfare, but they put some guerrilla action on.

0:27.4

Hello and welcome to Gorilla History, the podcast that acts as a reconnaissance report of global

0:33.3

proletarian history and aims to use the lessons of history to analyze the present. I'm one of your

0:39.4

co-hosts, Henry Huckamacki, joined as usual by my co-host, Professor Adnan Hussein, historian and

0:46.1

director of the School of Religion at Queens University in Ontario, Canada. Hello, Adnan. How are you

0:51.1

doing today? I'm doing well, Henry. It's good to be with you.

0:54.5

Nice to see you as always. We have an incredible guest and topic lined up for us today.

1:01.2

But before I introduce the guest and the topic, I want to remind the listeners that they can help support the show and allow us to continue making episodes like this by going to patreon.com forward slash

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guerrilla history. That's G-U-E-R-R-I-L-A history. And you can keep up to date with everything

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that we're doing by following us on social media. We're on Twitter at Gorilla underscore

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And you can subscribe to our free Substack to get updates into your email inbox by going to

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GorillaHistory.substack.com.

1:38.0

So this episode that we have today is a continuation of our African Revolutions and Decolonization

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series and is another case study

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episode within our series. I'm really excited for this episode, which is going to be focused on

1:52.2

the Congo, and we have an absolutely incredible guest. We have Professor Georges Zongola

1:58.2

Intelagia. Professor, it's nice to have you on the show.

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