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Good morning Lauren. The sun is shining. It's beautiful. Although I'm currently stuck

in this dark recording booth, but the sun is out. The sun is out. Everything's

covered in pollen and I can't stop sniveling.

I've got a question for you. Okay.

How do you feel about river crossings? And I'm not talking about the ones with

the bridges. I'm talking about like fording rivers. How do you feel about it?

Oh my God. Fits. I feel like anyone that really knows me would immediately laugh

at this question because I hate river crossings. I'm not really like a water

person. I'm not that, you know, like I'm not good at swimming. I'm not that

comfortable in the water. And so I basically avoid river crossings at all costs.

Fair enough. It's funny. I like water, but I completely concur with you.

Like I would say that no one shows up for river crossings. Like no one goes

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