Leave us a five-star review on your favorite podcast platform. I get it. It's annoying. Everybody

asks, but I'm going to tell you why. When you give us a positive review, what that does is it

triggers the algorithm so that our podcast shows up on more people's news feeds. You and I both know

that this ministry is willing to talk about things that most ministries aren't.

We need this content for the glory of God to reach more people's ears.

Well, thank you so much for having me here.

Thank you, Joel.

A few weeks ago, I called Joel and asked him,

I'm like, hey, you have not given me a topic to speak about at the conference

yet.

And I'm like, what do you want me to talk about?

And he just says to me, like, you do know what the name of the conference is this year, right?

Just talk about trash world.

Right?

Explain what that is.

So that's what we're going to do for the next hour or so.

I told Joel that it might be longer than that since this is the first time I've been involved

with something with him and actually allowed to talk, so this is great.

He's going to be mad at me about that one.

So, what is Trash World?

I remember when I was writing my book, and my editor stressed me the point about how important

it is to be able to have an elevator speech, an elevator speech about what it's about.

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