Hey everyone it's Kurt we need your help with our annual survey this is your last chance to help us get to know you so we can make idea cast even better for you

it's easy just go to HBR.org

podcast survey.

Again, that's HBR.org.

And thanks for listening. Welcome to the HBR Ideacast. I'm Walter Frick. I'm here with Amy Bernstein, the

editor of Harvard Business Review, for what we think of as the condensed audio

issue. The issue in question is the November 2014 issue.

Amy, thanks so much with talking with me today.

Great to be here with you today, Walt,

and I'm really excited to talk about the November issue.

There are two packages in there that are exciting and a little bit different for us.

One of them is the CEO 100 and the other is our

spotlight on the Internet of Things. Well let's talk first about the top 100 CEOs. I'd love to hear a little bit more about that and I think the first

question on our listener's minds is probably how is a ranking like that done?

We ranked our CEOs based on total shareholder return. That said, we understand that there's

a lot more to being a great CEO than making a lot of money. There are lots of intangibles, but they're also very hard to measure.

So this is our first time out of the gate with our own version of this list. We've worked in the past with partners at

InCAD and again we worked with them but we made it a little bit more our own and we're going

to be doing this every year. Every year we're going to be doing this every year.

Every year we're going to add more features to it and we're going to,

we're really trying to figure out how we can measure some of these intangibles,

but for this first installment,

...