The Conde Nast Union Busting Purge
It Could Happen Here
Cool Zone Media and iHeartPodcasts
4.0 • 6.5K Ratings
🗓️ 19 November 2025
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Mia talks with Alma Avalle, a former staffer at Bon Appetite and VP of the News Guild of New York, about her firing in the wake of Conde Nast’s Teen Vogue purge
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.5 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:05.9 | Cool Zone Media. |
| 0:10.5 | Welcome to naked app and hearer podcast telling you to rage against the dying of the light. |
| 0:14.9 | I am your host, Bea Wong. |
| 0:17.1 | And many episodes ago, significantly more tearfully, I talked about how, you know, watching the trans voices in media get fired and disappear. |
| 0:26.6 | Felt like watching the stars disappear in the sky. |
| 0:28.6 | And today I am here to say, do you not go gently into that good night. |
| 0:32.1 | Fuck him. |
| 0:33.1 | Rage against the dying of the light. |
| 0:34.8 | And with me, to rage against the dying of the light and with me to rage against the dying of the light and talk about |
| 0:39.8 | some absolute bullshit is alma ovae who is a former staffer at bon appetit and we will be getting |
| 0:45.8 | into why that's now technically former and the VP of the news guild of new york alma welcome to the |
| 0:52.0 | show amia lovely to be here. |
| 0:56.0 | I wish it was under better circumstances. |
| 1:12.9 | I feel like everyone I talk to, I go, I wish you were just under better circumstances, but, you know. Yeah, circumstances across the board are kind of trash right now. Yeah, they're really bad. The circumstances, they do be, they do, they do, they do be shit. So these specifically bad circumstances are, one, Condé Nast has just obliterated Teen Vogue, which had been one of the few actually very good progressive outlets, |
| 1:18.7 | also one of the few outlets that would publish trans people regularly. And it's just gone now. And |
| 1:24.7 | Alma and three of her colleagues were fired for very protected union activity being like, |
| 1:30.0 | hey, what the fuck? |
| 1:31.6 | And we kind of terms of that. |
| 1:33.8 | I can say this because it's not my ass in the line. |
| 1:38.5 | Yeah, do you want to talk a bit about what happened? |
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