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1 big thing

The complicated web of employer drug pricing

1 big thing

Axios

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🗓️ 7 December 2021

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Americans spend hundreds of billions on prescription drugs each year. In fact, about $370 billion as of 2019. And employers in charge of healthcare plans paid for about $166 billion of that. It's middleman firms, which actually negotiate these drug prices on behalf of employers. But because they keep their data secret, companies have no idea whether they're getting a fair deal on drug prices or not. And an Axios investigation shows these intermediaries are working hard to keep it that way. Plus, the Department of Justice sues Texas over voting rights And, eating out could soon mean more encounters with robots Guests: Axios' Ben Herman and Russell Contreras. Credits: Axios Today is produced in partnership with Pushkin Industries. The team includes Niala Boodhoo, Sara Kehaulani Goo, Julia Redpath, Alexandra Botti, Nuria Marquez Martinez, Alex Sugiura, Sabeena Singhani, Lydia McMullen-Laird, Michael Hanf, and David Toledo. Music is composed by Evan Viola. You can reach us at podcasts@axios.com. You can text questions, comments and story ideas to Niala as a text or voice memo to 202-918-4893. Editor's note: This conversation was updated to correct an error. The Supreme Court conservative majority is 6-3 (not 6-4). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Good morning. Welcome to Axios today. It's Tuesday, December 7th. I'm Nyla Boudou. Here's

0:09.3

what we're watching today. The Department of Justice who's Texas overvoting rights. Plus,

0:14.6

eating out could soon mean more encounters with robots. But first, the complicated web of

0:21.1

employer drug pricing is today's one big thing.

0:29.2

Americans spend hundreds of billions on prescription drugs each year. In fact, about $370 billion

0:36.6

as of 2019, and employers in charge of health care plans paid for about $166 billion of that.

0:44.5

It's middleman firms which actually negotiate these drug prices on behalf of employers, but

0:50.8

because they keep their data secret, companies have no idea whether they're getting a fair deal

0:56.2

on drug prices or not. And in Axios investigation shows these intermediaries are working hard

1:02.6

to keep it that way. Bob Herman is Axios' health care business reporter. Hey, Bob.

1:07.3

Hey, Nyla. So this is kind of complex. If I go to a pharmacy and I pick up a prescription

1:13.6

that's covered by my employer, who's negotiated that price?

1:18.2

Yeah, there's a lot of action that occurs behind the pharmacy kind of companies that most

1:24.9

Americans have never heard of specifically in our investigation. We're referencing what's

1:29.4

called a drug pricing coalition. So imagine your employer goes to a consulting firm.

1:36.7

This consulting firm helps with benefits and what kind of plans they should offer to their

1:41.9

employees. And then they go to what's called pharmacy benefit managers. And these PBMs

1:48.4

essentially are the companies that negotiate drug prices with drug manufacturers that decide

1:54.0

which drugs get preferential treatment. We focus specifically on a drug pricing coalition

2:01.6

that is started by Aeon. Aeon is this big global benefits firm. Now they charge employers

2:08.2

anywhere from $20,000 a year up to $300,000 a year just to be part of the coalition. And you

2:15.2

get to supposedly benefit from the prices that are negotiated as being part of it.

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