meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
The Political Scene | The New Yorker

The Complicated Legacy of Colin Powell

The Political Scene | The New Yorker

The New Yorker

Barack, Washington, Wickenden, News, Obama, Politics, Wnyc, Lizza, President

4.33.9K Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2021

⏱️ 24 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Colin Powell was a Vietnam War veteran, a four-star general, and—among other high-level positions in the U.S. government—the Secretary of State under George W. Bush. Powell was well known for his conviction that the United States should go to war only when the likelihood of victory was overwhelming. But then the Bush Administration used his popularity to persuade the public to support the Iraq War, which became one of the greatest military calamities in U.S. history. Dexter Filkins joins Dorothy Wickenden to discuss Powell’s long record of public service, and how he shaped post-Cold War foreign policy.

Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Discover Earth's ultimate untamed places with wilderness. With access to 6 million acres of private land

0:07.7

in eight African countries, wilderness offers intimate wildlife encounters and experiences that will

0:13.0

leave you changed forever. The accommodations are luxurious and stay true to the vibrant soul

0:19.8

and spirit of each destination and the trips are

0:23.0

meticulously planned from arrival to departure, making them perfect for a group, family or

0:28.5

solo travellers. Wilderness is among the leaders of conservation hospitality, with more than 60

0:34.5

of the most highly awarded lodges in camps in Africa.

0:43.0

Wilderness is especially excited this year to focus on wellness, providing experiences that immerse you in beautiful places to restore your sense of self through nature.

0:48.1

To learn more and book your own wilderness adventure, go to wilderness destinations.com

0:52.9

slash women who travel.

0:55.7

eBay, it's a place to fall in love with new pre-loved vintage and rare fashion over and over

1:01.6

again. Your favorite designers, expertly authenticated. Yeah, eBay. Things people love.

1:11.1

This is the political scene, a weekly conversation with New Yorker writers and guests about

1:16.2

politics. It's Thursday, October 21st. I'm Dorothy Wickenden, executive editor of the New Yorker.

1:24.2

Colin Powell, the four-star general who served as the national security advisor to Ronald Reagan,

1:30.3

the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under President's George H. W. Bush and Bill Clinton,

1:37.3

and Secretary of State to George W. Bush, died this week.

1:42.3

Powell was a Vietnam War veteran who spent 35 years in the military,

1:47.0

and that experience drove his belief that the United States should intervene only in situations

1:52.0

where victory was almost certain and the exit strategy was clear.

1:57.0

But the plain-spoken Powell, deeply admired by Americans for his prudence and integrity,

2:03.6

will be remembered most for the speech he gave to the United Nations Security Council in 2003,

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The New Yorker, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of The New Yorker and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.