I actually think it's very easy to support emerging trends and to follow them through to their

natural conclusions simply by understanding capitalism and how, well, how shitty it is.

Hello and welcome to Tech Won't Save Us.

I'm your host, Paris Marks, and this week I'm joined by Tim Mon.

Tim is the author of Infinite Detail and Ghost Hardware.

He's written for BBC Future, New Scientist, Motherboard,

and he has a new column with 10 exploring the complex systems that we interact with in our everyday lives and might not even realize

the extent to which they're important and hard to understand. We have a really interesting

conversation today that delves into Tim's work and the implications of supply chains, infrastructures,

technologies, how they shape our world, how they shape us, and how these increasingly

complex, technologically controlled systems are hard to understand and thus not only take

power out of our hands, but also out of the hands of any kind of elected leaders

who we might want to change our society for the better. I've been looking forward to speaking with

him on the podcast for a really long time, and I'm happy that we were finally able to connect and chat

and discuss all of these really important issues that we're both

really interested in in the end. And I highly recommend that you check out Tim's column and his other

work once you're done listening to our conversation. Just a reminder that Tech won't save us is

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