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Hi, this is Josh Marshall and this is the Josh Marshall podcast.

You know, a lot's happened since we saw you last, since we talked to you last.

We were recording this episode on June the 29th, so we're one day after this kind of

rush arranged hearing with this Trump staff or Cassidy Hutchinson that obviously, you

know, kind of out of the blue and a big thing.

And since we talked to you last, Roe v Wade was overturned.

So two very big things, obviously, very different things in their magnitude.

Unfortunately, we knew, we basically knew this road decision was coming.

Still, it was, it is of such a magnitude that it still had a fairly shocking and shattering

impact.

I mean, I would say, I mean, in many ways, we knew this decision was coming down from

the moment that Amy Coney Barrett went on to the court.

Some people kind of, you know, holding out some level of hope or maybe they're going

to split the difference or whatever or maybe it won't be this term.

It'll be the next term, but it's been pretty clear since then.

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