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Hello and welcome to Your Dead To Me, a Radio 4 comedy podcast that takes history seriously.

My name is Greg Jenner, I'm a public historian, author and broadcaster.

And today we are journeying all the way back to 15th century America and Europe and Africa

and Asia for that matter. Because we are getting to grips with the Columbian exchange.

It's an epoch-making moment in history which has been described by some historians as the birth

of globalization, not all historians but some. And joining me to spin our big old globe

are two very special guests. In history corner she's senior lecturer in international history

at the University of Sheffield. Not only is she a leading historian of the Aztecs,

she has branched out across the Atlantic to explore how the indigenous peoples of the Americas

travel to and discovered, converted commas, Europe in the 1500s. You can read all about it in her

brand new fascinating book on savage shores which reverses the meaning of savage to talk about

these shores in the UK. And of course you will remember her from our Aztecs episode, it's Dr

Caroline Dodd-Penock. Welcome back Caroline. Hello thank you for having me back. Pleasure,

we're very excited to have you back. And in comedy corner it wouldn't be a proper Your Dead To Me

series without our star alumna. She's a comedian, actor, writer and host. You've seen her all over

the TV on Taskmaster, Frankie Ball's New World Order, The Horn Section and Neil Gaiman Samman.

As a murderer and you'll know her from multiple episodes of this very podcast including recent

highlights, history of timekeeping and Paul Robes and two of my faves, it's Desiree Birch. Welcome

back Desiree. Thank you so much. First of all can you please inform Yale that I'm a star alumna

because all they do is send me requests for money. And nothing else. And also I want as a

murderer to be an old man to trust from now on. All right well what do you know of the Colombian

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