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You're Dead to Me

The Columbian Exchange (Radio Edit)

You're Dead to Me

BBC

Comedy, History

4.710.9K Ratings

🗓️ 17 October 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Greg Jenner is joined by Dr Caroline Dodds Pennock and comedian Desiree Burch in the 15th century to learn all about the Columbian Exchange, which is often described as the start of globalisation.

In this episode, we go beyond the expeditions of Christopher Columbus to share the bigger story of a monumental exchange of plants, foods, animals, materials, people and culture across the continents. It’s also a life lesson on why you shouldn't set sail with a couple of cougars aboard your ship!

This is a radio edit of the original podcast episode. For the full-length version, please look further back in the feed.

Research by Roxy Moore Written by Emma Nagouse and Greg Jenner Produced by Emma Nagouse and Greg Jenner Assistant Producer: Emmie Rose Price-Goodfellow Project Management: Isla Matthews Audio Producer: Steve Hankey

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0:12.5

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0:14.8

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0:17.9

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0:20.2

It's right foot goes for goal.

0:21.6

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0:22.7

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0:27.7

The stat that is astonishing is they ended with the lowest amount of possession.

0:31.2

And she's had to live with that.

0:32.8

So if you love sport, a passion, it's almost like a religion.

0:35.8

Listen on BBC Sounds.

0:37.8

Sort of expecting that every week now.

0:41.9

Hello and welcome to You're Dead to Me, a Radio 4 comedy podcast that takes history seriously.

0:47.2

My name is Greg Jenner.

0:48.4

I'm a public historian, author and broadcaster.

0:50.9

And today we are journeying all the way back to 15th century America and Europe and Africa and Asia for that matter, because we are getting to grips with the Colombian exchange.

1:02.0

It's an epoch-making moment in history which has been described by some historians as the birth of globalization.

1:08.2

And joining me to spin our big old globe, our two very special guests.

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