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A professor joins our program to talk about libertarianism. He says something about Trump that I don't appreciate.

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One of the more fascinating aspects of my 10 years almost 11 years of doing this is seeing how certain ideas.

Books thinkers have grown in popularity and also collapsed in popularity mostly in the conservative movement.

When I got started in 2012 2013 2014 in particular the conservative movement especially the young conservative movement was very libertarian.

The libertarian think tanks libertarian organizations almost all conservative republican literature was laced with hyper libertarianism and I'm not saying that critically.

I read Marie Rothbard, Lou Glamisis, F.A. Hayek, Ein Rand became steeped in libertarianism. Milton Friedman without really ever a proper similar journey until recently into Russell Kirk and Edmund Burke.

I've obviously become more conservative and less libertarian and most all topics but most topics not all topics in the last couple of years.

But libertarianism definitely had a moment in 1213 and 14 it felt like it was a rising tide and then it's less popular than ever before in the conservative movement outside of a couple of issues like guns and I would say maybe civil liberties and privacy.

But help us unpack this super excited for this conversation because I've actually lived part of this is Andrew Coppelman award winning John Paul Stevens professor of law at Northwestern University and author of several other books as well and he is the name of the book is burning down the house and professor Coppelman joins us now.

Professor welcome to the program.

So professor let's get our terms straight what do you mean by libertarianism you say how libertarian philosophy was corrupted by delusion and greed I actually tend to agree with that largely.

How do you define libertarian philosophy libertarian is broadly understood as the idea that people will be freer people will have more control over their lives if we minimize government that small government is the path to giving us control over our own.

That's the basic idea that's shared by the multiple flavors of libertarianism I agree I think that's you just summarize that perfectly and that's terrific so therefore you say it was corrupted by delusion and greed you start in at least the summer I haven't read the book yet I look forward to but you start in some of the summaries is saying that high.

And then high it was one of kind of the modern day let's just say 1940's 1950's you know composed road to surf them but then you say his philosophy was corrupted by other thinkers first tell us about F a high it tells about his warnings against the

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