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Audra J. Wolf is a writer, editor and historian based in Philadelphia.

With the background in both science and history, her work specifically focuses on the role

of science during the Cold War, a period when science held a special place in maintaining

and projecting state power.

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Now back to today's episode where Audra and I guests on the show. Now, back to today's episode where Audra and I

met at Manchester University, where she's currently on a lecture tour.

Welcome to Cold War Conversations, Audra.

Hello. Thanks so much for having me on.

So we're here to talk about your latest book, Freedom's Laboratory, the Cold War struggle for the soul of science.

Now, it's safe to say, until I read this book, I hadn't realized how much of a battle

there was in the scientific world during the Cold War.

So I did find it very interesting.

Yeah, I think when we think about science in the Cold War, we tend to think about objects

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