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The cold truth about refrigeration

Outside/In

NHPR

Society & Culture, Documentary, Natural Sciences, Nature, Science

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 10 September 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

In the early 1900s, people didn’t trust refrigerated food. Fruits and vegetables, cuts of meat… these things are supposed to decay, right? As Nicola Twilley writes, “What kind of unnatural technology could deliver a two-year old chicken carcass that still looked as though it was slaughtered yesterday?” But just a few decades later, Americans have done a full one-eighty. Livestock can be slaughtered thousands of miles away, and taste just as good (or better) by the time it hits your plate.  Apples can be stored for over a year without any noticeable change. A network called the “cold-chain” criss-crosses the country, and at home our refrigerators are fooling us into thinking we waste less food than we actually do.  Today, refrigeration has reshaped what we eat, how we cook it, and even warped our very definition of what is and isn’t “fresh.”  Featuring Nicola Twilley. For full credits and transcript, visit outsideinradio.org.   SUPPORT Outside/In is made possible with listener support. Click here to become a sustaining member of Outside/In.  Follow Outside/In on Instagram or join our private discussion group on Facebook.   LINKS You can find Nicola’s new book “Frostbite: How Refrigeration Changed Our Food, Our Planet and Ourselves,” at your local bookstore or online. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, you're listening to Outside Inn. I'm Nate Hedgy. I am happily married now, but I remember

0:05.9

almost a decade ago when I was single. And man, it is hard to find a partner. I mean,

0:15.6

you might spend hours at a bar every week, maybe go on a couple of blind dates, then you spend

0:20.2

your nights flipping endlessly through Tinder, hinge, bumble.

0:25.1

And maybe, if you are particularly desperate, you might reach out to a refrigerator dating

0:32.4

guide.

0:33.3

His stick is to match people based on the contents of their fridges.

0:38.1

That's Nicola Twilly.

0:39.4

She's co-host of the podcast, Gastropod.

0:41.9

You can either submit pictures of the fridges of someone you've just started dating and say, listen, any red flags.

0:50.6

Or if you submit your fridge, he can suggest a match.

1:00.3

Niccolo wasn't looking for a partner. She's married. She was actually doing research for a book about

1:06.0

refrigeration. So does he give you like a score on your fridge? Well, you don't get a score, but you do get feedback.

1:13.8

And I will say the first words out of his mouth were,

1:16.6

this chick is awesome when he saw my fridge.

1:19.8

So again, you can tell how hungry I was for this.

1:25.6

But yes, he I think was being, well, more generous than I would be.

1:31.6

I have a lot of Tupperware.

1:35.2

I have an unseemly amount of alcohol.

1:39.6

I have a lot of condiments.

1:43.0

This matchmaker, he started his refrigerator dating service as a kind of joke.

1:48.0

But the truth is, fridges really do tell you a lot about a person.

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