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Rational Security

The "Coke Party" Edition

Rational Security

The Lawfare Institute

Foreignpolicy, Nationalsecurity, News, Government, Politics, Middleeast

4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 13 July 2022

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

This week, Alan, Quinta, and Scott were reunited to hash through the week's national security news, including: 


  • “A Thousand and One Arabian Flights.” President Biden is conducting his first official visit to the Middle East this week with the stated goal of building ties between Israel and Saudi Arabia, beginning with more direct airline routes. Why this sudden high-profile engagement and what does Biden hope it will yield?

  • “Loose Bannon.” Trump ally Steve Bannon has signaled that he may be willing to speak to the Jan. 6th committee after all, just as his contempt trial for refusing to do so gets under way and a disagreement between the former president’s lawyers and his own regarding whether he can invoke executive privilege goes public. What does this all mean for his legal future?


  • “Crossing the International Hate Line.” FBI Director Chris Wray and his U.K. counterpart recently made a joint statement on the growing international ties between violent right-wing nationalist movements in various Western countries. What could this mean for counterterrorism strategy moving forward?


For object lessons, Alan recommended his latest favorite show about an old spy, "The Old Man." Quinta brought a blast from the past with a tech review by Mark Twain, who gave The Atlantic an account of his first telephonic conversation. And Scott recommended a recent piece in The Atavist on young Vladimir Putin's ties to neo-Nazi groups while handling spies for the USSR. 



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0:00.0

I'm also doing something I don't do normally, which is drinking a Coke zero at 9 a.m. in the morning. Wow

0:07.6

Stammer the pod. Oh, no, no, oh wait, we are recording

0:19.2

Oh good my little kid is still on West Coast time and so is up to 4.30 in the morning

0:24.5

So now which doesn't make them correlate the West Coast time

0:27.1

It's not like he's staying up to 1.30 in the morning on the West Coast, but right ever he's not in a rational place unfortunately and therefore neither am I so I'm drinking a Coke at 9 a.m.

0:37.3

Are you guys doing better than that?

0:40.4

Congrats, Quinta.

0:44.1

It's a low bar. Look, my life is in shambles right now, but at least I have this.

0:49.1

Well, somehow you manage to lose your microphone stand people people can't see sadly are listening to you can't see this. Yes.

0:57.4

Quinta is in this very complex yoga pose in order to keep this microphone near her mouth. Yeah, I don't know guys. I don't know where it wandered off to. Maybe my dog took it. I got nothing.

1:08.7

This is the ultimate feat of podcasting endurance.

1:12.6

Like at this point about it at our at one hour mark, you're gonna be like shaking sweat pouring down your face.

1:18.6

Yeah, it's like it's like it's the CrossFit podcast crossover, pod fit or it's just like, you know, your underarms and you're incredibly thick neck. That's the plan. That's where you build muscles.

1:37.6

Man, we're all in rare form this morning. Yeah, I just want to say I'm really enjoying that car is keeping her video on because I can just see her facial expression.

1:49.6

And now I know exactly what you think of us as we. Yeah, this weekly podcast. It's like the cringiometer. It's awesome. We can just like how badly do you need to review that last bad answers a lot.

2:04.4

Hello, everyone. Welcome to rational security 2.0 aka rational security reason. I am one of your co-hosts. God our Anderson and I am here with my two other regular co-hosts for the first time after a few weeks away with Alan Rosenstein.

2:18.6

Hello, I am back. I am back from COVID land, sort of. I'm halfway back from COVID land and delighted to be back on the pod.

2:25.6

You're still sounding the lifeline gravely and I like it. We need more of that. We need more of that kind of base frame to the podcast. You know, you like it. My wife likes it. It's a good sound.

2:35.6

There you go. And with our other co-hosts, of course, going to dress a eloquent. Hello.

2:40.6

Well, we are here for what we are calling the Coke party edition in honor of my beverage of choice after a night was to sleep training my child and a 9 a.m. recording session.

2:50.6

This one's going to get a little bit weird folks, but we are excited to have you here today as we talk through some of the week's big national security news.

2:58.6

Our first topic for the day, a thousand and one Arabian flights.

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