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Afford Anything | Make Smart Money Choices

The Code of Trust, with Robin Dreeke

Afford Anything | Make Smart Money Choices

Paula Pant | Cumulus Podcast Network

Entrepreneurship, Investing, Business

4.73.6K Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2017

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

#101: Robin Dreeke is former head of the FBI’s Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program. His primary role, at the time, was to thwart foreign spies and  recruit American spies. That's not an easy task. To accomplish this, Dreeke needed to gain people's trust -- even when they had no reason to trust him. He spent years developing and testing systems on how to develop trust with others in high-stakes situations. Today, he joins us on this podcast to describe The Code of Trust, a set of practices that he developed during his days as a high-ranking counterintelligence expert.   This system is based on 5 simple principles: Suspend Your Ego Be Nonjudgmental Honor Reason Validate Others Be Generous   Tune in to hear him elaborate on each principal, and discuss how this applies to anyone who wants stronger, more trustworthy relationships at work and home. For more information, including links to resources mentioned in this episode, visit http://affordanything.com/episode101  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

You can afford anything but not everything.

0:10.8

Every decision that you make is a trade-off against something else.

0:13.9

So what's most important to you and what trade-offs will you make as a result?

0:18.0

My name is Paula Pant, host of the Afford Anything Podcast where we explore this question,

0:22.2

and today I'd like to introduce Robin Drieke, who catches spies.

0:27.1

Robin Drieke is a 29-year veteran of Federal Service, including the U.S. Naval Academy and the Marine Corps.

0:33.1

He was a senior agent in Federal law enforcement, and until recently the head of the Counter-Intelligence

0:39.6

Behavioral Analysis Program, where his mission was to thwart the efforts of foreign spies.

0:47.0

So he's a spy catcher.

0:49.2

He was also tasked with recruiting American spies.

0:51.8

So basically, a lot of what he had to do within his job was generate trust, because when

0:57.2

you're trying to catch foreign spies, or when you're trying to recruit talented people

1:02.7

to become spies for the U.S., you've got to be trustworthy.

1:06.4

You've got to be the type of person who's got people skills.

1:09.7

Robin decided to inspire reasonable, well-founded trust among people by formulating this thing

1:15.8

that he refers to as the Code of Trust.

1:19.6

And the Code of Trust is a system that he devised and tested as he was doing years of fieldwork

1:25.9

in national security.

1:27.9

And since he has developed it, he has now taught this Code of Trust to high-level executives

1:34.8

at Fortune 500 companies, to law enforcement, to CEOs, to academics, to people who work

1:41.3

at think tanks.

1:43.2

So the Code of Trust has been rigorously tested, and has been taught to some of the highest

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