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The cloud’s heavy toll on natural resources (rerun)

Marketplace Tech

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News, Technology

4.51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 25 December 2023

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

The thing we call “the cloud” might sounds harmless, but that seemingly abstract place where the details of your digital life get stored takes a heavy toll on the environment. Marketplace’s Lily Jamali spoke with Steven Gonzalez Monserrate, a postdoctoral researcher in the Fixing Futures training group at Goethe University in Frankfurt, Germany, about his research on cloud data centers and their effect on the health of the planet.

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Big Tech has a big cloud problem. From American public media, this is Marketplace Tech.

0:08.0

I'm Lily Jamali. The thing we call the cloud might sound harmless but that seemingly abstract place where the details

0:26.4

of your digital life gets stored takes a heavy toll on the environment.

0:30.5

No this cloud isn't something floating in the air. It is millions of

0:35.9

individual servers running in thousands of giant data warehouses around the

0:40.8

world. We're outsourcing more of our data storage and everyday

0:44.8

computing there all the time. If the servers fail you might lose access to your

0:49.4

emails, your precious photos, or that presentation you're editing with colleagues in real time and so these

0:55.8

servers run 24-7 which takes a lot of power and other resources too. Stephen Gonzales

1:03.2

Moncerate is a postdoctoral researcher at Goate University in Frankfurt

1:07.7

Germany where he studies cloud data centers and what they're doing to the

1:11.4

planet. Cloud is a metaphor but what and what we really are

1:15.0

we really are referring to is a vast set of infrastructures that are mostly

1:20.6

based on the ground that are threaded through the ocean and

1:25.3

fiber optic cables and undersea network of cables and satellites and cellular towers

1:31.7

are supplementary to that, but the primary signal traffic is still happening on the ground and under the ocean.

1:39.0

If we use the metaphor of a cloud, we don't think of clouds as something that is polluting. In fact,

1:43.7

clouds are a symbol of nature. They're a symbol of a world in balance, not a world

1:48.1

that is tipping out of balance. You know, cloud data facilities have you very real environmental impacts can you talk about

1:57.2

first of all the large carbon footprint. How big is that carbon footprint? Is there a way to quantify it globally? The electricity

2:05.0

consumed by data centers, you know, does contribute a significant carbon

2:10.3

footprint. For data centers specifically, it's something in the order of

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