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How will we power our future?

Can we create a healthy and clean economy?

Climate 1 at the Commonwealth Club is at the forefront of the

global debate about energy, economy, and the environment. Bringing together the brightest and

most provocative leaders of our time, Climate One is the place where big ideas get heard. It's

our future. It's time to come together.

Welcome to Climate One at the Commonwealth Club.

I'm Gretchen Weber of KQED's Climate Watch.

Roger Pelke Jr. is a professor of environmental studies at the University of Colorado at Boulder.

He's also a senior fellow of the Breakthrough Institute.

In his recent book, The Climate Fix, what scientists Politicians won't tell you about global warming,

Pelke outlines his views on what's wrong with the climate debate, why finding a solution

is so difficult, and what should be done to get the discussion and the action on the right

track. Please welcome Roger Pelke.

So, Roger, thanks for coming.

Thanks for having.

Usually we just dive right in.

So I'd like to ask you what actually is wrong with the climate debate today.

In your book, you talk about politicization of the issue, but you also talk about confusion about definitions and confusion about carbon policy versus climate policy. So if you wouldn't mind starting out telling us,

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