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Deadline: White House

“The clearest sign yet”

Deadline: White House

MSNBC

News, Donald Trump, Daily News, The White House, Nicolle Wallace, Politics, Nbc News, Washington Dc, Msnbc, Government

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 15 February 2023

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace discusses new reporting on the behind the scenes legal battle between the DOJ and Donald Trump’s attorneys that may indicate that Special Counsel Jack Smith has evidence of a crime, the DOJ’s decision to close its multi-year investigation into Congressman Matt Gaetz involving allegations of sex trafficking, what to look for ahead of the release of key parts from the Fulton County Special Grand Jury Report and more. Joined by: Carol Leonnig, Frank Figliuzzi, Charlie Sykes, Dave Aronberg, Harry Litman, Tia Mitchell, Andrew Weissmann, Rick Stengel, Erin Brockovich, Rev. Al Sharpton, Joy Reid and Trymaine Lee.

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0:00.0

Hi everyone, it's 4 o'clock in New York. The clearest sign yet, the special counsel Jack

0:12.4

Smith has evidence of a crime in the probe into Donald Trump's handling of classified documents

0:18.6

after he left the White House. That is thanks to brand new reporting on a behind-the-scenes

0:23.1

legal battle between DOJ and one of Trump's attorneys. His name is Evan Corcoran from NBC

0:29.5

News. Quote the special counsel investigating Donald Trump's handling of classified documents

0:34.7

is seeking to compel a lawyer for the former president to testify before a grand jury.

0:40.0

It's according to a source familiar with this matter. Prosecutors alleged in a sealed

0:44.1

filing that they have evidence that some of Trump's conversations with the attorney were

0:49.0

in furtherance of a crime. The special counsel is reportedly asking a judge to invoke the

0:54.6

crime fraud exception, which allows investigators to pierce that wall of attorney client privilege

1:00.4

and force an attorney to testify under oath about conversations between him and his client.

1:06.9

Which in this case would be Evan Corcoran the him and his client, one Donald Trump.

1:12.5

New York Times, which was the very first to report this news, as the special counsel is

1:16.8

zeroing in on this. Quote whether Trump or his associates obstructed justice in failing

1:23.1

to comply with demands to return a trove of government material, he took with him from

1:28.1

the White House upon leaving office, including hundreds of documents with classified markings.

1:34.0

One potentially very important piece of evidence in determining whether the ex-president or

1:39.4

his attorney's obstructed justice is a letter delivered to DOJ and signed by one of Trump's

1:45.5

attorneys in June of last year. Declaring, there were no classified documents. Not at all.

1:51.8

That's a moral.

1:52.8

Once again, from that Times reporting, another lawyer for Trump, Christina Bob signed a

1:57.7

statement asserting that a, quote,, diligent search. A diligent search have been conducted

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