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The "Clear and Present Danger" of Donald Trump

1 big thing

Axios

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🗓️ 17 June 2022

⏱️ 10 minutes

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The third day of eight planned public hearings from the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack took place yesterday. The idea that former President Donald Trump is still a danger to American democracy was one of the main themes. Plus, a forgotten history lesson from Watergate Guests: Axios' Margaret Talev and Russell Contreras Credits: Axios Today is produced by Niala Boodhoo, Sara Kehaulani Goo, Alexandra Botti, Nuria Marquez Martinez, Lydia McMullen-Laird and Alex Sugiura. Music is composed by Evan Viola. You can reach us at podcasts@axios.com. You can text questions, comments and story ideas to Niala as a text or voice memo to 202-918-4893. Go Deeper: Pence "never budged" on view that he could not overturn election, aide testifies The Latino burglars of Watergate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Good morning. Welcome to Axios today.

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It's Friday, June 17. I'm Nyla Bud. Here's what you need to know today. A forgotten history lesson

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from Watergate. But first, today's one big thing. Why the January 6th panel says Trump is still

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a threat to democracy. Still Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present

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danger to American democracy. That's retired Republican judge Jay Michael Ludig as part of

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the third day of eight planned public hearings from the House Select Committee on January 6.

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That idea that Donald Trump is still a danger to American democracy was just one of the main

1:12.0

themes yesterday. Axios's Margaret Talib joins us as she does most Fridays for her political

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analysis. He Margaret. Hi, Nyla. That line that Judge Ludig said about the clear and present

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danger is so interesting for a couple of reasons. I think most of us, you hear that expression,

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you think of that Harrison Ford movie. But what clear and present danger really is, is it is a test

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about when the Supreme Court can infringe on the First Amendment, right? What are the limits of

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the First Amendment? Do you have the limit under the First Amendment, in this case, to overthrow

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an election, a valid election result? So I think while it sounds like a catchy phrase,

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Judge Ludig is actually getting at something bigger here and it is what the panel is trying to get to.

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It's the question of criminality or criminal culpability, whether any of this is prosecutable,

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either for the former president or for the advisors close to him who were telling him, yeah,

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go for it. See if you can stay in the presidency. We heard from many Republicans yesterday,

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