A mental mission to Mars. I'm Rebecca Lee. I'm Jason Horton. And this is Ghost Town.

There is a CIA document titled Mars Exploration, May 22, 1984. In 1984, the CIA

used psychics to travel to Mars, when to 1 million BC? Wow. This is a CIA document that was

released as there are many. And I don't know if we've discussed Project Stargate,

remote viewing, astral projections. When in the 1970s, the government CIA is like, let's try using

psychic warfare. Psychic means and new age means and they were open to that, whether it be

being able to walk through walls. And those were the men who stare at goats. Yeah. That movie.

Around there. So it's, you know, a very true thing that really didn't add up to much, except for

tax dollars going to it. Yeah. And not going to the people, the people in not 1 million BC

didn't see that, but didn't see that money. And I like to listen. I think this is a really cool part

of history. Was it a success as far as I know? Most probably not. Yeah. Not to say that not, you know,

the use of mental, you know, psychological warfare isn't a real thing. But when you're talking about

well, what we're about to talk about, it's pretty, it's pretty out there. It's pretty interesting.

But it's like, it was fuel, you know, this cold war kind of experimentalism and competitiveness

that we really don't have with Russia anymore or, you know, communist countries in general,

I feel like gave our government, first of all, like people didn't really ask where all those

dollars went, but just really gave them free reign to try to engineer things that maybe they

were hearing about in other places, whether or not it was true or not. But, you know, it was,

it was a time of great experimentation to what end? I wonder if there, I wonder if there was

somebody in like the late 1970s and they're like, hey, man, I managed to sound like, it's like

the CIA is using psychics to try to travel and like see enemies plans for attack and they're like,

yeah, whatever Dan. Yeah, get a haircut, Dan. Yeah. And he's like, how about we listen to some

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