The Church Where Defying COVID Orders Takes on a Holy Aura with Sam Kestenbaum
Straight White American Jesus
Axis Mundi Media: Bradley Onishi + Daniel Miller
4.7 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 9 March 2021
⏱️ 30 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Straight White American Jesus. I'm Brad Onishi, Faculty and Religion. It's |
| 0:16.8 | given more college. Our show is hosted in partnership with the Cap Center at the University |
| 0:21.0 | of California, Santa Barbara. And I'm joined today by Sam Kessenbaum, who's a freelance |
| 0:25.3 | journalist, writes about North American religions for The New York Times and other outlets. |
| 0:30.3 | His reporting is one of the number of awards, The Rock-A-Ware Award for Excellence in |
| 0:33.5 | Feature Writing in the Solerian's Press Club Award. 2020, a series of his profiles |
| 0:39.2 | on religious figures was awarded a first place prize by the Society for Feature's Journalism. |
| 0:44.5 | And for The New York Times, he's written about amazing sort of diverse array of things, |
| 0:48.4 | from Mary Ann Williamson and of course, in Miracles to an End Times Evangelist, who says |
| 0:53.0 | the Bible foretold Donald Trump, the revival of a forgotten 19th century scripture called |
| 0:58.1 | The Osp and a Poet Turn Psychic, Jane Roberts, Seth Chaneling and NBA star Amari Stautamire |
| 1:05.6 | in his turn towards Judaism. That's a lot. And Sam, I'm excited. I wish I could ask about |
| 1:10.7 | all those things, but I'm going to ask you just about one thing. So first of all, let |
| 1:13.4 | me say, thanks for being here. Happy to be here. Thank you for having me. |
| 1:16.8 | You wrote a piece recently in the Washington Post about something that really caught my |
| 1:21.3 | eye and the piece is great. And it's basically about a Southern California church called Godspeak, |
| 1:27.4 | part of the Calvary Chapel network that has been flouting COVID restrictions and COVID |
| 1:33.5 | mandates. And this sort of like resistance to COVID prohibitions and mandates about indoor |
| 1:39.8 | gatherings and so on and so forth, has basically led to attendance skyrocketing. There's |
| 1:45.3 | about a thousand people attending the church in person these days. There are many more |
| 1:50.3 | attending online. And it seems that the pastor, Rob McCoy, who is a big character and |
| 1:56.3 | somebody we'll talk about, has really tapped into something here. Here's where I'd love |
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