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Political Thinking with Nick Robinson

The Christopher Steele One

Political Thinking with Nick Robinson

BBC

News, Politics

4.62.5K Ratings

🗓️ 17 September 2022

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Nick Robinson talks to Christopher Steele, the author of the the 'Trump-Russia dossier'. They discuss his time as an intelligence officer in the Soviet Union, how he became an overnight public figure and Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:05.6

A historic victory for Ukraine, a humiliating setback for Russia.

0:10.5

Territory taken back, which is three times the size of Greater London.

0:15.4

If it hadn't been for the death of the Queen, that news would have dominated conversation

0:20.4

not just here, but globally.

0:23.0

My guest on political thinking this week is a man whose voice is heard more and more

0:27.8

often in debates about how we should respond to the aggression of Vladimir Putin.

0:33.3

Aggression, not just in Ukraine, but here at home as well.

0:37.9

His name is Christopher Steele, a name which was for years almost unknown beyond Whitehall

0:44.1

as head of the Russia desk at MI6, the Secret Intelligence Service.

0:48.2

He was paid to live in the shadows.

0:51.1

But Steele's name became used and abused again and again by Donald Trump and his allies

0:57.7

after it was revealed that Long After he left MI6 and set up his own private company,

1:03.1

he was the author of the Russia dossier, what Trump called the dirty dossier, that examined

1:08.6

links between Putin and the man who was then running to be president of the United States.

1:15.2

Kristiele, welcome to political thinking.

1:17.2

Hello.

1:18.2

Who are you?

1:20.2

People may wonder.

1:21.2

Should they think of you as a spire, a hired hand, a patriot, or all of the above?

1:27.6

Well, perhaps declaring an interest here, we've known each other for many years, so you

1:31.5

knew better than most who I am.

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