The Christopher Steele One
Political Thinking with Nick Robinson
BBC
4.6 • 2.5K Ratings
🗓️ 17 September 2022
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
Nick Robinson talks to Christopher Steele, the author of the 'Trump-Russia dossier'. They discuss his time as an intelligence officer in the Soviet Union, how he became an overnight public figure and Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts. |
| 0:05.5 | A historic victory for Ukraine, a humiliating setback for Russia. |
| 0:10.6 | Territory taken back, which is three times the size of Greater London. |
| 0:15.4 | If it hadn't been for the death of the Queen, |
| 0:17.9 | that news would have dominated conversation not just here, |
| 0:21.7 | but globally. My guest on political thinking this week is a man whose voice is heard more and more |
| 0:27.8 | often in debates about how we should respond to the aggression of Vladimir Putin. Aggression, |
| 0:34.0 | not just in Ukraine, but here at home as well. His name is Christopher Steele, a name which was for years |
| 0:41.5 | almost unknown beyond Whitehall as head of the Russia desk at MI6, the Secret Intelligence Service, |
| 0:48.0 | he was paid to live in the shadows. But Steele's name became used and abused again and again by Donald Trump and his |
| 0:56.9 | allies after it was revealed that long after he'd left MI6 and set up his own private company, |
| 1:03.0 | he was the author of the Russia dossier, what Trump called the dirty dossier, |
| 1:08.0 | that examined links between Putin and the man who was then running to |
| 1:12.1 | be president of the United States. Christel, welcome to political thinking. Hello. |
| 1:18.7 | Who are you, people may wonder. Should they think of you as a spy, a hired hand, a patriot, |
| 1:25.7 | or all of the above? Well, perhaps declaring an interest here, Nick, we've known each other for many years, |
| 1:31.3 | so you know better than most, who I am. |
| 1:33.7 | I spent 22 years in the Foreign Service of Britain and did postings in Moscow and Paris. |
| 1:41.5 | And then in 2009, I set up my own business, a corporate intelligence company called |
| 1:46.8 | Orbis. And initially in the first sort of five or six years of the company, we were fairly |
| 1:52.4 | low profile. We used to talk about ourselves as being the hidden hand. And then, of course, in 2016, |
| 1:58.5 | we took on this tasking to investigate Trump's links with Russia, |
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