Today, we're joined by Sam Albury, an author, a speaker for Ravi Zacharias International

Ministries and a minister at St. Mary's Maidenhead, Anglican Church in the UK.

He joins us today from his office in Oxford.

Sam, we have so much to discuss, so let's dive right in, let's actually dive right into

the deep end and into a big ongoing debate within the church.

As we do so, I should say that this episode of APJ will be slightly different because

I want to use this opportunity to better understand an ongoing debate happening inside of the

church right now over same-sex attraction and orientation questions and whether or not

it's appropriate to use the label gay Christian.

This episode is not an attempt to finally resolve that debate and all of its attendant

issues.

Nevertheless, Facebook and Twitter, I'm sure are going to blow up after this one because

people will want to resolve it all in comment.

My aim here is simply to raise the debate with UCM as it stands and to sort of bring others

up to speed with the tensions that Christian brothers and sisters are struggling through

right now.

And to that end, we'll look at the orientation question in just a moment, but first Sam,

explain for us what do you mean by the phrase same-sex attracted when you use it?

Thank you.

These are some very big issues, so I can only kind of sketch out where I'm at my own thinking

on this.

Certainly for me, the only romantic and sexual feelings I've ever experienced have been

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