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Unchained

The Chopping Block: Who's Really Satoshi? Quantum Panic, and AI Eating Code

Unchained

Laura Shin

Business News, News, Tech News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2026

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Bitcoin’s Satoshi drama heats up again as a major journalistic “reveal” drops, just as the crypto industry gets rocked by a quantum computing breakthrough that pulls up security timelines—and AI-powered exploits are suddenly real. We break down Satoshi theories, Blockstream PR whispers, the new quantum risk landscape, Ethereum vs. Bitcoin migration pain, and why your favorite protocols might not be ready for North Korea or superintelligent bug finders. Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week we’re joined by Justin Drake, Ethereum Foundation researcher and the internet’s favorite quantum attack alarm bell ringer. Things get spicy immediately: the eternal guessing game “Who is Satoshi?” gets a new round of attention as John Carreyrou (yeah, Theranos guy) drops a supposed expose pointing his finger at none other than Blockstream’s Adam Back.  The crew debates whether this Satoshi story is tired PR, inside baseball, or a genuine existential turning point for Bitcoin culture. Then things escalate: Justin walks us through Google and Atomic’s quantum computing breakthrough—a real, validated step forward that potentially pulls the “Q-day” clock up to as soon as 2029. The implications? Bitcoin and Ethereum’s security models are suddenly under the gun, and community denial is in full effect. Who’s better poised to survive a quantum apocalypse… and is coin burning on the menu for Satoshi’s stash? Later, we break down the Drift hack—North Korea’s latest state-level heist, featuring IRL social engineering that sounds like Mr. Robot meets Oceans Eleven. Finally, it’s an AI arms race: Anthropic’s Mythos model is reportedly the most dangerous security researcher ever coded, and it’s already quietly hardening corporate fortresses.  Panic? Prepare? Both? One thing’s for sure—there are no do-overs on the blockchain, so let’s get into it. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pods, Fountain, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights 🔹 Blockstream’s Adam Back is the new “Satoshi” according to a viral John Carreyrou story   🔹 Bitcoin’s culture wars: PR rumor mill vs. industry insiders roll their eyes   🔹 The Google & Atomic quantum computing breakthrough slashes Q-Day timelines dramatically   🔹 Ethereum’s quantum readiness (thanks Justin) vs. Bitcoin’s “not my problem” response   🔹 Why crypto’s “immutable” past is a quantum-ticking time bomb for dormant addresses   🔹 Satoshi coin burning debate—do we idolize, fork, or rage-quit?   🔹 The Drift hack: North Korean ops, social engineering, and multi-sig failures   🔹 Anthropic’s Mythos: the AI that finds bugs before humans—and sometimes emails you about it   🔹 Formal verification, client diversity, and the future defense of blockchains   🔹 Haseeb’s question: Could AI break crypto before quantum does? Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly  Guest ⭐️ Justin Drake, Researcher of Ethereum Foundation Disclosures LINKS "Securing Elliptic Curve Cryptocurrencies against Quantum Vulnerabilities: Resource Estimates and Mitigations" — Google Quantum AI, Ethereum Foundation, Stanford https://quantumai.google/static/site-assets/downloads/cryptocurrency-whitepaper.pdf "Shor's algorithm is possible with as few as 10,000 reconfigurable atomic qubits" — Cain, Xu, King, Picard, Levine, Endres, Preskill, Huang, Bluvstein https://arxiv.org/abs/2603.28627 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Bitcoin has this culture of trying to get rid of FUD.

0:05.0

You know, I think this is a good default position to have, but for some cases where, you know, it's actually not FUD, it's some sort of autoimmune disease.

0:13.0

Not a dividend.

0:14.0

It's a tale of two Kwan.

0:15.0

Now, your losses are on someone else's balance.

0:18.0

Generally speaking, air drops are kind of pointless anyways.

0:39.1

I'm named the trading firms who are very involved. D5.Eat is the ultimate POMES. DFI protocols are the antidote to this problem. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the chopping block. Every couple weeks, the four of us get together and give the industry insider's perspective on the crypto topics of the day. So quick intro, So it's first to go Tom, the Defy Maven and Master of Memes.

0:40.2

Hello, everyone.

1:11.3

Next. industry insider perspective on the crypto topics of the day. So quick intro, the first you got Tom, the Defy Maven and Master of Means. Hello, everyone. Next, we got to Rune, the Gigabrain and Grand Puba at Gauntlet. Yo. Joining us today, we've got Justin Drake, beacon chain boffin, and the captain of Quantum. Hey, thanks for having me. But it has been, um, uh, Sorry. Can this is live, actually. We're keeping this. Go. Do it again. Do it again. What's your intro? Hey, thanks for having me. Okay, perfect. And then I'm the seed of the headhap man of Dragonfly. We're early-stage investors in crypto, but I want to caveat that nothing we say here is invest in advice, legal advice, or even life advice. Please see chop and blocked at XYZ for more disclosures. Justin, there are no do-overs on the blockchain. So we want to start, so we brought you on to talk about quantum. We are super late to the quantum conversation. but before we get into quantum, there was a big story that just dropped last night.

1:29.1

So we're recording this on Wednesday.

1:31.4

And John Kerry Roo, who is known for having taken down Theranos, a famous reporter,

1:38.7

he recently published a story about Satoshi Nakamoto.

1:43.6

I thought we were not doing this anymore.

1:45.3

But John Kerry was like, no, I'm going to do one more.

1:47.5

I'm going to do one more again.

1:48.8

And he has written an expose, a very long, very well-researched story about his belief that

1:56.4

Satoshi Nakamoto is drum roll, Adam Back.

2:01.8

So what is his evidence that it's Adam Back?

2:04.0

There were a bunch of little pieces.

2:05.0

Let me see if I can reconstruct it.

2:06.0

I'm going from memory here.

2:07.2

So basically, one, Adam Back was largely offline during the time the Satoshi was posting

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