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Unchained

The Chopping Block: RWA Perps Go Parabolic, ClawdBot, & Superstate's $82M Raise

Unchained

Laura Shin

News, Tech News, Business News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2026

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

The crew breaks down Superstate's massive $82M Series B for tokenization, the explosive rise of TradeXYZ's commodities trading hitting $1B+ volume, different tokenization models from "bootleg" to "back office," the ClawdBot AI phenomenon taking over coding, and how agent-based development is revolutionizing crypto software engineering. Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, Robert drops news about Superstate's massive $82 million Series B raise led by Bain Capital to bring Wall Street on-chain through tokenization. The crew dives deep into the explosive growth of Hip3 markets, particularly TradeXYZ's commodities trading that's hitting over $1 billion in daily volume as precious metals rip to all-time highs. They break down the different tokenization models emerging - from "bootleg" third-party approaches to "back office" settlement tools to issuer-led official tokenization. Then the conversation shifts to the ClawdBot phenomenon taking the internet by storm, exploring how AI agents are revolutionizing coding and what this means for the future of software engineering in crypto. From vibe coding to the complete transformation of how startups will be built, the hosts examine whether we're witnessing a fundamental shift in how technical work gets done. Show highlights 🔹 Superstate raises $82M Series B led by Bain Capital for official securities tokenization 🔹 TradeXYZ hits $1B+ daily volume trading commodities on HyperLiquid's Hip3 markets   🔹 Gold and silver surge drives massive crypto-native precious metals trading boom 🔹 Three tokenization models emerge: "bootleg" third-party, "back office" settlement, issuer-led official 🔹 ClawdBot/Molt Bot AI phenomenon explodes with agent-based life automation tools 🔹 Security concerns arise as thousands of unsecured ClawdBot gateways discovered online 🔹 Agent coding revolution transforms software engineering from hand-coding to management 🔹 Anthropic employees fully transition to Claude Code, abandoning traditional IDEs entirely 🔹 Crypto exchanges expand beyond crypto to capture trading cohorts aging into new assets 🔹 AI meme coin cycles continue as crypto financializes every new tech breakthrough Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly  Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:05 Superstate's $82M Series B Raise 05:16 Tokenization Models: Bootleg vs Back Office vs Issuer-Led 10:03 Trade XYZ HIP-3 Markets Commodities Surge 17:06 Why Crypto Traders Are Flocking to Precious Metals 20:45 The Evolution of Crypto Trading Cohorts 28:14 ClawdBot AI Phenomenon  32:02 Security Concerns with AI Life Automation 35:43 Agent Coding Revolution 41:30 How AI is Transforming Crypto Startups 46:22 Anthropic Teams Fully Adopt Claude Code 51:06 Future of Software Engineering and Hiring Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

They've completely forgotten about crypto, or like not forgotten, but they're just like, that toy, they've, you know, the toy story meme, they just like threw away the doll. It feels like, I don't want to play with you anymore. Yeah, exactly. It feels like that a little bit. Not a dividend. It's a tale of two pawn. Now, your losses are on someone else's balance. Generally speaking, air drops are kind of pointless anyways. Unnamed trading firms who are very involved. I like that ETH is the ultimate problem. DFI protocols are the antidote to this problem. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the chopping block. Every couple weeks, the four of us get together and give the industry insiders perspective on the crypto topics of the day. So quick intro, Sric you got Tom, the defy maven and master of memes. Hello, everyone. Next, you've got Robert, the crypto connoisseur and czar of Superstate. Good morning. Next, we've got Tarun, the Gigabrain, and Grand Puba at Gauntlet. Yo. And finally, I'm Hesib, the head hypeband at Dragonfly.

0:59.5

We're early-station investors in crypto, but I want to caveat that nothing we say here is investment advice, legal advice, or even life advice.

1:00.5

Please see chopping block.

1:01.8

That XYZ for more disclosures.

1:05.2

So, Mr. Zar of Superstate, congratulations.

1:06.7

You've got some big news.

1:13.3

Superstate just announced that they raise $82.5 million to, bring Wall Street on chain led by Bain Capital Crypto, Distributed Global, Galaxy Digital, Han Ventures,

1:19.0

Brevin Howard, huge round, absolutely massive. Talk to us. So first of all, congratulations,

1:25.4

get a little golf clap, golf clap. Thank you. Beautiful.

1:28.4

You don't clap yourself. Oh, you don't in golf when you like do the thing? It's a big, you know, you like just present yourself to the world. So yeah, talk to us. Talk to us about the raise. Talk to us about what's going on in Super State land. And obviously, congratulations from us. Thank you. Well, Super State last really raised a Series A in August of 2023.

1:48.7

So it's actually been quite some time since we raised capital.

1:53.0

Since then, as a company, we were able to prove out the sort of like early primitives

1:58.7

of tokenization of securities in an issuer first non-wrapper

2:04.7

model. We launched two funds. Today, USTB is a T-Bel fund. USC is a high-eield basis fund. Those are

2:12.2

over a billion dollars of AUM. And we've begun to prove out the tokenization of equities. Last

2:17.2

year, we brought Galaxy Digital and Sharplink Gaming and Forward Industries,

2:22.8

their shares onto Solana and Ethereum, really is a test case to prove out the mechanics of

2:28.5

what does it look like to tokenize the security and what does it look like when it's the same

2:34.0

stock that trades on the

2:35.3

NASDAQ or the New York Stock Exchange as a token on the blockchain? The basic mechanics of this

2:40.2

are live in production. But the really cool thing is that you can actually transfer shares between

2:44.6

brokerage accounts and apps on your phone and tokens on a blockchain and back and forth again.

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