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The Chopping Block: Rugs, Incentives & Float Lies, Mosi Breaks It All Down - Ep. 836

Unchained

Laura Shin

News, Tech News, Business News

4.51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Robert Leshner, and Tarun Chitra break down the biggest stories in crypto. This week, we’re joined by one of the most iconic anons on Crypto Twitter: Mosi, aka @vanacharma. Known for calling out sketchy tokenomics and vaporware valuations, Mosi joins the crew for a ruthless teardown of market maker games, OTC dumps, and the “hallucination yield” driving this cycle’s worst bets. From the $60M Movement Labs fiasco to OTC pump schemes and the collapse of community trust, the gang goes deep on why crypto’s market structure is broken—and what it’ll take to fix it. If you’ve ever wondered how the sausage gets made in crypto token launches, this one’s for you. Show highlights 🔹 $60M Movement Meltdown – How a token deal gone wrong became crypto’s latest fiasco and dragged down one of the cycle’s most hyped L1s. 🔹 Anon vs. Everyone – Iconic CT anon @vanacharma breaks down the float games, OTC dumps, and tokenomics illusions plaguing the industry. 🔹 Market Makers or Middlemen? – When is liquidity real, and when is it just backdoor exits? We unpack how MM incentives are getting abused. 🔹 Hallucination Yield & Vapor Valuations – Why funds chase tokens with the fakest traction — and what happens when reality hits. 🔹 Are VCs to Blame? – The crew debates whether investors are complicit in these token games or just bad at picking founders. 🔹 Pump, Dump, Repeat – How OTC discounts, fake float, and circular trading fuel a Ponzi-like system hiding in plain sight. 🔹 Why Retail Gets Burned – Most people never stood a chance. We walk through how asymmetric info and hidden unlocks wreck public buyers. 🔹 Can This Be Fixed? – Haseeb and Mosi clash on the path forward: enforceable disclosures, exchange oversight, or do-nothing chaos? 🔹 Self-Regulation Is the Only Way Out – Before the SEC nukes everything, the industry must grow up. Here’s where that starts. ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly  Guest ⭐️ Mosi, Just a Kid from Africa Timestamps  00:00 Intro 01:22 Mosi’s Crypto Philosophy 03:13 Market Structure Issues in Crypto 08:07 OTC Deals & Market Manipulation 15:36 Fixing the Market Structure 23:56 Self-Correcting Market Dynamics 29:19 VC Incentives and Market Impact 36:08 Retail vs. Institutional Investors 52:26 Superstate's Vision for Onchain Equities HostsDisclosures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The assets that pump in most are the assets are harder to value, like stuff that like has like very high hallucination yield.

0:06.0

And like I think there's always an incentive to do that.

0:09.0

And like unless these funds get like super wrecked, this is just going to continue.

0:13.0

Like that's kind of like how I say it.

0:15.0

Not a dividend.

0:16.0

It's a tale of two funds.

0:17.0

Now your losses are on someone else's balance.

0:20.0

Generally speaking, air drops are kind of pointless anyways.

0:22.8

Unimmed to trading firms who are

0:24.5

very involved. I like that

0:26.3

E's the ultimate pump. D5 protocols

0:28.7

are the antidote to this problem.

0:31.6

Hello everybody. Welcome to the chopping

0:32.8

block. Every couple weeks, the four of us get together

0:34.7

and give the industry insider's perspective on the

0:36.6

cryptot topics of the day.

0:38.2

So quick and shows, first you got Tom, the Defy Maven and Master of Memes.

0:41.3

Hello, everyone.

0:42.4

Next, you've got Robert, the Cryptoconisurer and Tsar of Super State.

0:45.4

Good morning.

0:47.4

Joining us today, we've got special guest, Mosey, Mast Maverick, and the Magnifier of Mist Deeds.

0:54.6

Jim.

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