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Unchained

The Chopping Block: Quantum FUD, Circle vs. Tether & WLFI Drama

Unchained

Laura Shin

News, Business News, Tech News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 19 April 2026

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

Quantum computing risk, USDC vs. Tether drama after the Drift hack, and World Liberty Financial’s governance circus take center stage as Haseeb, Tom, Tarun, and special guest Joshua Lim dissect market signals, institutional FUD, Trumpcoin shenanigans, and ask: is crypto VC dead or just getting started? Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, the crew is joined by special guest Joshua Lim, Head of Derivatives at FalconX (and self-described Quantum FUD Whisperer). Ever wondered what happens when a quantum computer finally threatens public key cryptography? We break down the real and imagined risks of “Q Day,” what markets are actually pricing in, and why watching for Satoshi’s coins moving is still the ultimate market panic trigger. Next up, the hosts tackle the messiest storyline in stablecoins: the massive Drift hack, North Korea’s role, and the blame game between USDC and Tether. Is Circle’s “wait for the court order” approach defensible, or are PR wins up for grabs for whoever moves fastest? We would never forget the crypto car crash that is World Liberty Financial: from drama-filled governance votes that magically extend lockups, to Justin Sun’s redemption arc versus Trumpcoin, to whale-scale DeFi leverage that could nuke a protocol. It’s a masterclass in governance theater and permissioned shenanigans. Finally, we level with all the “crypto venture is dead” crowd — who’s still building, where the real capital is now, and why bear markets always demand an extra shot of conviction. From quantum nightmares to meme coin melodrama, let’s get into it. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pods, Fountain, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights 🔹“Q Day” decoded: What quantum risk really means for Bitcoin and the markets   🔹 How institutional allocators cite quantum FUD — but are they just making excuses?   🔹 Why “watching for Satoshi’s coins moving” would nuke market confidence   🔹 Drift hack dissected: USDC vs. Tether, North Korea fingerprints, and Circle’s PR headache   🔹 Is Circle’s don’t-freeze-without-court-order policy defensible or just bad optics?   🔹 World Liberty Financial’s (Trumpcoin) greatest hits: forced lockups, governance theater, and Justin Sun’s crusade   🔹 Tether’s “PR coup” and the stablecoin migration on Solana   🔹 Are most crypto VCs washed? Debating the right-sizing of venture capital in the bear   🔹 Hot takes on “revenue meta,” mature infrastructure, and why there’s less room for dreamers   🔹 Who’s actually still building in crypto — and why cycles always come back Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly  Guest ⭐️ Joshua Lim, Head of Markets at FalconX Links: Joshua Lim’s Q-Day Thread: ⁠https://x.com/joshua_j_lim/status/2044602429002367330?s=20⁠ Disclosures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I think the reality is that crypto is extremely momentum driven.

0:03.0

When momentum turns negative, nobody wants to say, I'm selling because it's going down. That's a stupid, it sounds stupid to say that. So instead, you come up with the smartest possible thing you can say of why you're selling, which is quantum. Not a dividend. It's a tale of two quons. Now, your losses are on someone else's balance. Generally speaking, air drops are kind of pointless anyways. I named trading firms who are very involved.

0:24.5

I like that. Your losses are on someone else's balance. Generally speaking, air drops are kind of pointless anyways. Unnamed trading firms who are very involved. D5.8 is the ultimate problem. DFI protocols are the antidote to this problem. Hello, everybody. Welcome the chopping block. Every couple weeks, the four of us get together and give the industry insight of its respective on the crux of topics of the day. So quick intro, this is first you got Tom, the Defy Maven and Master of Memes. Hello, everyone. Next, you got Tarun, the Gigabrain, and Grand Puba at Gauntlet. Yo. Joining us today, we've got special guest, Josh Lim, mastermind of markets at Falcon X. How to be here?

0:57.5

And I am the C of the head hype man at Dragonfly.

1:00.8

We are early-stage investors in crypto, but I want to caveat that nothing we say here is investment advice, legal advice, or even life advice.

1:03.1

Please see Chopin Block.X, Z for more disclosures.

1:06.0

So Josh, we brought you on because we often talk about markets on the show, but we have

1:10.3

no idea what we're talking about.

1:11.7

And you do know what you're talking about. You work at Falcon X. You see everything happening,

1:17.2

especially on the institutional flows that are coming back and forth across your guys' desks.

1:22.0

And you recently published a thread. So Crypto is starting to get a little bit of breath of fresh air

1:26.9

after a long and kind of

1:28.4

dark quarter that we've had over Q1. But you recently published a thread about Q-Day.

1:34.8

Now Q-Day, I don't think we've used the term on the show before, but Q-Day stands for basically

1:37.9

Quantum Day. Sounds celebratory, but it's really a very sad day because it's the day that

1:42.2

a quantum computer can break public key

1:44.8

cryptography. So people are very afraid of QDA. We're repairing for QDA. It's a little bit like Y2K.

1:50.1

It's like that's the day when shit goes bad. So you wrote a thread about what to look for

1:57.0

in markets that are going to be signals that QDA is coming. So obviously there's a lot of

2:01.8

technologists who are looking at, okay, you know, how many cubits does it take to crack an egg

2:06.4

or fry an omelet? But the question that you're asking is, when is the market going to tell

2:11.7

us this, not the scientists, about when QDA is coming? Because, of course, markets often give

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