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The Chopping Block: Points or Airdrops, Which Is the Better Engagement Model for Crypto Projects? - Ep. 603

Unchained

Laura Shin

News, Tech News, Business News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2024

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest news and with special guest Aevo's Co-Founder - Julian Koh. This episode zeroes in on the latest buzz around the Jupiter ($JUP) airdrop: What's the real story behind Jupiter’s valuation and controversy? We peel back the layers of Jupiter's token strategy and its impact on market dynamics. The dialogue then shifts to the innovative approaches of Aevo (formerly Ribbon Finance) in pre-launch derivatives and the burgeoning trend of airdrop farming: How are Airdrop strategies altering the landscape of token valuation and investor behavior? The debate intensifies as we tackle the contentious battle between points systems and traditional airdrops: Are points a revolutionary engagement tool or a complex web of incentives? With the resurgence of ICOs and the strategic pivot of Ribbon Finance, we explore the implications of rebrands on the crypto ecosystem. Join us for an in-depth exploration of these critical topics and their profound impact on the world of cryptocurrency. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Pandora, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show Highlights 🔹 Jupiter Airdrop Deep Dive: Unraveling the complexities and controversies behind the Jupiter ($JUP) airdrop. 🔹 Valuation Variance: Examining the fluctuations in Jupiter token valuation and their market repercussions. 🔹 Community Engagement: Evaluating the effectiveness of @weremeow's live streams in shaping community perceptions. 🔹 Airdrop Discontent: Analyzing the liquidity dynamics and user dissatisfaction stemming from airdrop strategies. 🔹 Innovations in Derivatives: Exploring Aevo's unique approach to pre-launch derivatives in the DeFi space. 🔹 The Airdrop Farmer's Dilemma: Discussing the strategies used by airdrop farmers to hedge against price volatility. 🔹 Points vs. Airdrops Debate: Delving into the pros and cons of points systems compared to traditional airdrop mechanisms. 🔹 Rebranding Strategies: Assessing the impact of token rebrands, with a focus on Ribbon Finance's evolution. 🔹 Pre-IPO Markets and Crypto: Drawing parallels between traditional pre-IPO conversion markets and crypto points systems. 🔹 The Uncertainty Factor: Considering how the allure of uncertainty influences engagement and investment in crypto. 🔹 Protocol Dynamics: Investigating the effects of airdrop farmers on the health and engagement of blockchain protocols. 🔹 ICO Resurgence: Discussing the potential comeback of Initial Coin Offerings and their role in the crypto funding landscape. 🔹 Stress Testing with Points: Highlighting innovative uses of points for protocol stress testing like Eigenlayer. 🔹 Referral Systems in Crypto: Analyzing the impact of referral-based points systems on protocol engagement and growth. Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing partner at Dragonfly  ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly  ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures Guest ⭐️ Julian Koh, Aevo's Co-Founder Disclosures Links Jupiter LFG Launchpad Blog Article - https://station.jup.ag/blog/jupiter-lfg-launchpad  Blockworks: “Jupiter airdrop draws criticism, but support remains strong” - https://blockworks.co/news/jupiter-airdrop-draws-criticism  Proposal: “Merge Ribbon Finance into Aevo” - https://gov.ribbon.finance/t/rgp-33-merge-ribbon-finance-into-aevo/709  Weremeow’s Twitch Stream: https://www.twitch.tv/weremeow  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

If there's enough demand people will make pooled models, the pooled models become much harder to police. You know, it's like the cat and mouse game keeps going on.

0:08.0

So like I think that's where it's extremely different than web 2 and that's also something where it's like purely the on-chain

0:14.4

stuff will dominate the centralized because the centralized things will look like Uber and they can shut you down, right? They can just turn off that market.

0:22.1

Not a dividend.

0:23.2

It's a tale of two quand.

0:24.3

Now your losses are on someone else's balance.

0:27.1

Generally speaking, air drops are kind of pointless anyways.

0:29.9

I made the trading firms who are very involved.

0:32.6

I like that eat is the ultimate problem.

0:34.8

Defy protocols are the antidote to this problem.

0:38.6

Hello everybody.

0:39.4

Welcome to the chopping block.

0:40.7

Every couple weeks, the four of us get together

0:42.2

to give the industry insiders perspective on the crypto topics of the day.

0:45.0

So quick intro is first you got Tom the D.5 Maven and Master of Memes.

0:49.0

GM everyone.

0:50.0

Next we've got Taroon, the gigiga Brain and Grand Puba at Conlet.

0:54.0

Yo.

0:55.0

Today we've got a special guest, Julian, the architect and Avo, formerly Ribbon Finance.

1:00.0

Yeah, I guess I'm Robert's standing today.

1:04.4

You are our defy, you are a defy maven today.

1:08.4

Or I guess not, the crypto connoisseur today.

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