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The Chopping Block: Perps, Privacy & Prediction: Aster vs. Hyperliquid, Zcash Pops, Polymarket Soars, Galaxy One Debut - Ep. 921

Unchained

Laura Shin

Tech News, Business News, News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 11 October 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Polymarket scales with Wall Street’s blessing, Kalshi fires up KOLs, and BNB chain melts down as fast as it ran. We dissect Aster’s data drama, the new privacy wave lifting Zcash, and Galaxy One’s glossy yields—what’s smart strategy vs. old mistakes in new clothes? Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, we unpack Polymarket’s jaw-dropper: a $2B raise at a $9B valuation led by ICE (parent of the NYSE), the token tease, and whether prediction markets will eat sportsbooks. We get into the KOL wars (Kalshi vs. Polymarket), the line between paid shilling and product marketing, and what “parlays” look like on prediction platforms. Then: Aster vs. Hyperliquid and DeFiLlama’s delist sparks transparency questions, while BNB Chain’s 72-hour meme-coin supercycle goes boom→bust. Privacy takes center stage as Zcash rips and the “privacy meta” returns. We close with Galaxy One’s 8% yield pitch — BlockFi déjà vu or smarter risk management in a post-CeFi world? Show highlights 🔹 Polymarket’s $2B at $9B — led by ICE (NYSE parent): why a TradFi giant is backing prediction markets and what integrations could follow. 🔹 Token tease — the crew debates what a Polymarket token could represent amid a CFTC path and U.S. re-entry. 🔹 KOL Wars: Kalshi vs. Polymarket — disclosed influencer marketing vs. “paid shilling,” and where the ethical line actually sits. 🔹 Product vs. Asset promos — why “use this platform” ≠ “buy this ticker,” and the gray zone of shilling specific markets or sides. 🔹 Do prediction markets influence reality? When odds can sway decisions (Fed, elections), and why markets may self-correct before hitting “99%.” 🔹 Sportsbooks in the crosshairs — parlays on prediction markets, Robinhood funnels, and why DraftKings/FanDuel should care. 🔹 Aster vs. Hyperliquid — incentives, wash-trading risk, and DeFiLlama’s delist after suspicious Binance-correlated volumes. 🔹 BNB’s 72-hour supercycle — memecoins moon, CZ’s “not endorsements” tweet, then a brutal boom→bust as bridgers retreat. 🔹 Privacy supercycle — Zcash rips on Naval/Mert momentum; Zashi UX + NEAR intents cited vs. “it’s just flows” skepticism. 🔹 Old coin, new crowd — why ZEC’s age + thin float can turbocharge moves, even with lower on-chain usage than Monero. 🔹 Galaxy One’s 8% yield — comeback arc for BlockFi’s Zach Prince or smarter, public-company-backed risk management? 🔹 CeFi vs. DeFi lending — on-chain transparency, Coinbase’s approach, 60-day gates, and whether unsecured credit is creeping back. Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly  Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:08 Polymarket & Shayne Coplan’s Journey to Success 05:28 The Role of Prediction Markets 10:21 Kalshi vs. Polymarket: KOL Wars  23:56 Sports Betting & Prediction Markets 29:19 BNB Chain's Memecoin Boom and Bust 33:55 Aster and Defi Lama: The Delisting Drama 37:04 Privacy Supercycle: The Zcash Bull Run 50:02 Galaxy One: BlockFi's Comeback? Disclosures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

We spent multiple years basically saying privacy is useless and meme coins are better than privacy, right?

0:06.0

So it's like there is this like feel good element to the old people in crypto.

0:11.0

Not a dividend.

0:12.0

It's a tale of two pawn.

0:13.0

Now your losses are on someone else's balance.

0:16.0

Generally speaking, airdrops are kind of pointless anyways.

0:19.0

Unnamed trading firms who are very involved. I like thatEat is the ultimate problem. DFIProticles are the antidote to this problem. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the chopping block. Every couple weeks, the four of us get together and give the industry insider's perspective on the crypto topics of the day. So quick intro, it's first you got Tom, the DFI Maven, and Master of Memes. Hello everyone. Nice. We've got Robert, the Cryptoconisaur and Tsar of Super State. Good evening. Joining us to guest, joining us today, we've got special guest, the Ghost of Turun, The New Brain and Grand Puba at Gauntlet. He'll be here at some point. Oh, he'll be. He'll arrive at some point.

0:55.0

I have no doubt.

0:56.0

Tarun is perpetually on time. And I am a seed of the head hype man at Dragonfly. We are early-stage investors in crypto. I want to caveat that nothing we say here is investment advice, legal advice, or even life advice. Please see Chopin Block and X, Y, Z for more disclosures. So it is the week after token 2049.

1:12.0

There's been a lot of craziness in the news

1:13.9

and a lot of price action going on. But the big news this week has been around Pollymarket,

1:20.3

which, full disclosure, all of us are investors in. So Pollymarket raised $2 billion at a $9 billion valuation, one of the largest fundraisers in

1:30.6

crypto history, and as well, one of the fastest valuation runups that we've seen in crypto

1:35.1

history, because it was just very recently in August they announced their $1.2 billion valuation

1:40.1

round led by Founders Fund.

1:42.1

Now, this round, notably beyond just the dollar amount it was led by

1:46.6

ice now this is not immigration ice this is ice the parent company of the new york stock

1:52.0

exchange no relation to immigration so it's a parent company of the new york stock exchange

1:56.5

was one of the largest exchanges in the world and the other part of the story that's so notable

2:01.0

is that this officially makes Shane

2:04.0

the youngest self-made billionaire in the world.

2:08.2

So Shane, I believe, is 26.

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