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The Chopping Block: Here’s What Was So Bad About Three Arrows Capital - Ep. 368

Unchained

Laura Shin

News, Tech News, Business News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2022

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to The Chopping Block! Crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news in the digital asset industry. In this episode, Taylor Monahan, matriarch of Metamask, joins the show to discuss the contagion of major crypto firms, the bear market, SBF saving crypto, and much more! Show topics: The importance of UX and security How Three Arrows Capital’s practice of borrowing to leverage their bets has caused a crisis for crypto lenders that rippled out to many customers How the GBTC arbitrage trade was part of 3AC’s undoing, and how that trade was one many other crypto trading institutions had previously abandoned How crypto lenders were being degens with customers funds Why SBF stepped in and made sure that BlockFi and Voyager didn’t default on customers’ deposits Whether this whole wind-down reflects a credit cycle How DeFi protocols were built to avoid these kinds of centralized finance problems  How the systemic issues caused by CeFi institutions like Celsius, BlockFi and Voyager are reminiscent of the Great Financial Crisis What are the similarities between this crypto meltdown, the Mt. Gox debacle, and the 1907 and 2008 financial crises What are the consequences of losing retail money vs. institutional money How surviving a credit cycle crisis creates the best risk managers The lessons to be learned from all these crises  How MakerDAO is trying to figure out what to do with its money What happened with Solend and why the DAO resorted to a centralized action Why DeFi needs more clauses about how to handle edge cases The difference between doing dumb things and wrong things Why Tarun is impressed with Solana’s DAO tooling Why Taylor is thankful for the bear market Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Capital https://twitter.com/hosseeb Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Capital https://twitter.com/tomhschmidt Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures https://twitter.com/tarunchitra  Robert Leshner, founder of Compound  https://twitter.com/rleshner    Guest: Taylor Monahan Twitter: https://twitter.com/tayvano_ Taylor’s thread on resources to learn about all things crypto: https://twitter.com/tayvano_/status/1509380091184246784?s=20&t=kNk8fJ7pJAWfEEVZQHwpvg   Episode Links   Crypto Contagion 3AC: https://blockworks.co/three-arrows-capital-brink-default-owes-voyager-657m/ Voyager Celsius + Goldman buyout? https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/goldman-celsius-bankruptcy BlockFi bailout: https://www.coindesk.com/business/2022/06/21/blockfi-receives-250m-credit-facility-from-ftx/ Unchained newsletter on BlockFi’s bailout: https://unchainedpodcast.com/vitalik-says-this-deserves-mockery/ CoinFlex: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-27/crypto-exchange-coinflex-to-issue-tokens-after-withdrawal-freeze?sref=Q2SpVkJl Babel: https://www.coindesk.com/business/2022/06/20/babel-finance-reaches-debt-agreement-with-counterparties-after-withdrawal-freeze/ Unchained Coverage: Why Possible Insolvencies by Celsius and 3AC Could Spell Disaster for Crypto: https://unchainedpodcast.com/why-possible-insolvencies-by-celsius-and-3ac-could-spell-disaster-for-crypto/ Solend DAO situation: Unchained Coverage: Solend and Bancor Drama: Did These DAOs Violate the Ethos of Crypto? – Ep. 366: https://unchainedpodcast.com/solend-and-bancor-drama-did-these-daos-violate-the-ethos-of-crypto-ep-366/ https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2022/06/19/solana-defi-platform-votes-to-control-whale-account-in-bid-to-avoid-liquidation-chaos/ Covered on Unchained Newsletter: https://unchainedpodcast.com/does-this-dao-deserve-emergency-power%e2%81%89%ef%b8%8f/ MakerDAO governance proposal: https://www.theblock.co/post/154515/maker-governance-is-voting-to-invest-500-million-in-us-treasury-bills Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey everybody, welcome to the chopping block.

0:04.3

Every couple weeks, the four of us get together and give the industry insiders perspective on

0:07.8

the crypto topics of the day.

0:09.5

So quick intro.

0:10.5

First up, we've got Tom, the DeFi Maven and Master of Memes.

0:12.8

Next up, we've got Robert, Crypto Connoisseur and Captain of Compound.

0:16.0

Then we've got Turun, the Gigabrain and Grand Puba at Gauntlet.

0:19.9

And joining us today, a special guest, we have Taylor Monahan, the matriarch of Metamask,

0:24.2

the not the CEO, very important not CEO of Metamask.

0:27.8

And then we have myself, Haseeb, I'm the head height man at Dragonfly.

0:31.4

So the four of us regulars are early stage investors in crypto, but I want to caveat, nothing

0:35.2

we say here is investment advice, legal advice, or even life advice.

0:39.2

So we've been off for a couple of weeks and we picked a really amazing couple of weeks

0:43.6

to not be talking about the news.

0:45.8

And so now we have just the most just absolutely lurid backlog of stuff that we have to talk

0:51.4

about, unfortunately.

0:52.9

But we've actually never met.

0:56.7

It's great to meet you and thanks for coming to hang out with us on this really depressing

0:59.9

podcast.

1:00.9

I'm so excited to be here on this really depressing podcast.

1:06.5

Also now the chopping block is now known as the guillotine.

1:09.8

Ooh.

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