The Chopping Block: Crypto Clarity Act Drama + Stablecoin Yield Wars + Developer Liability Fights

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Laura Shin

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🗓️ 22 January 2026

⏱️ 56 minutes

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This week the boys break down the Crypto Clarity Act's dramatic Senate markup with Coin Center's Peter Van Valkenburgh, covering developer liability concerns, tokenized securities language controversy, the banking industry's war against stablecoin yield. Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. Tarun's out this episode, but we're joined by Peter Van Valkenburgh, Principal of Policy at Coin Center and one of the sharpest legal minds in crypto. This week, we're diving deep into the Crypto Clarity Act drama that has DC in chaos mode. What started as crypto's best shot at comprehensive regulation just hit a major roadblock when Coinbase pulled their support hours before the Senate markup. We'll break down the developer liability questions around "control" definitions, the tokenized securities language that has Brian Armstrong fired up, and the stablecoin yield restrictions that have banks and crypto companies at each other's throats. Peter gives us the inside scoop on what's really in this 200-page bill, why Polymarket odds crashed from 80% to 40%, and whether this legislative train wreck can still get back on track. Let's get into it. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pods, Fountain, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights 🔹 Coinbase pulls support for Crypto Clarity Act hours before Senate markup, citing "defacto ban" on tokenized equities 🔹 Peter Van Valkenburgh explains developer liability concerns and how "control" definitions could impact DeFi protocols 🔹 Debate over whether the bill actually kills tokenized securities innovation or just restates existing law 🔹 Banking industry fights to restrict stablecoin yield payments, fearing deposit flight and profit compression 🔹 Tom breaks down multiple loopholes in yield restrictions that could easily be exploited through rewards programs 🔹 Robert argues banks are protecting oligopoly profits while stifling consumer choice and competition 🔹 Peter warns that fighting over yield could jeopardize crucial developer protections like the Blockchain Regulatory Certainty Act 🔹 Polymarket odds for bill passage crash from 80% to 40% as political tensions escalate 🔹 Discussion of sanctions obligations for DeFi frontend operators and application layer providers Hosts ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate ⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly Guest ⭐️Peter Van Valkenburgh, Executive Director of Coin Center Disclosures Links Senate Banking Nears Vote on Digital Asset Market Structure by Peter Van Valkenburgh & Jason Somensatto & Lizandro (Laz) Pieper https://www.coincenter.org/senate-banking-nears-vote-on-digital-asset-market-structure/ Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:36 Clarity Act Panic 04:46 Peter's Expert Take: Why This Bill Matters 10:16 Developer Liability 19:36 Sanctions Compliance 27:03 Tokenized Equities Fight 35:42 Great Yield War: Banks vs. Stablecoins 45:11 Will Clarity Survive? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	This is all just very frustrating to me because there's some very real privacy and liberty gains
0:05.6	in the Blockchain Regulatory Certainty Act and in the developer protections that are
0:10.4	constraining SEC and Treasury discretion.
0:14.4	And we are at, we are at risk of losing those legislative gains, which will protect ordinary
0:20.5	developers because people are fighting
0:23.0	over yield.
0:24.6	Not a dividend.
0:25.8	It's a tale of two pawn.
0:26.9	Now, your losses are on someone else's balance.
0:29.6	Generally speaking, air drops are kind of pointless anyways.
0:32.2	I'm into trading firms who are very involved.
0:35.2	D5.Eat is the ultimate policy.
0:37.4	D5 protocols are the antidote to this problem. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the chopping block. Every couple weeks, the four of us get together and give the industry insider's perspective on the crypto topics of the day. So quick intro is first you got Tom, the DFI Maven and Master of Memes. Hello, everyone. Next, you got got Robert, the Cryptoconisurer and Tsar of Superstade. Good morning. Joining us today, we've got special guest, Peter, who is the Prince of Policy at Coin Center. Welcome back, Peter. Thanks, guys. Thanks for having me. Yeah, you like that. And I'm Steve that had hype man at Dragonfly. We're early-stage investors in crypto, but I want to caveat that nothing we say here is investment advice, legal advice, or even life advice. Please see Chopin Block. That, X, Y, Z for more disclosures. So we've got another day of craziness and volatility in the markets. It looks like we might be getting another colony to add to Venezuela, but we're not
1:29.2	talking about that today. Today, we are talking about the craziness is going on right now in D.C.
1:35.7	So there's been a little bit of a panic because we originally thought that we were going to be
1:39.8	getting a fresh new bill, often called the market structure bill, now called the Clarity Act.
1:45.0	And the Clarity Act is basically the big, juicy hunker of a bill that's going to define
1:50.2	how all digital assets are regulated and how all the exchanges, DFI front ends.
1:55.8	Basically, it's kind of the everything burger for how crypto is going to be regulated going
2:00.3	forward.
2:01.3	So originally the predecessor of this bill was Fit 21 that never ended up passing the Senate.
2:07.8	And it metamorphosed into this thing today.
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