Seven months after Russia intervened militarily in Ukraine,

we will talk about the state of Russian-Chinese relations.

We need a new system. We need a new society.

We need to demand that which may have sounded impossible even a few weeks ago,

but is not only realizable,

but an imperative necessity. Welcome to this week's episode of the Socialist Program. I'm your host, Brian Becker.

Today we're talking with Marco Fernandez. He's a researcher at the Tri-Continental Institute for Research.

He's a member of the Dongshang News Collective, and he is an organizer with the No Cold War Collective.

Marco, welcome to the Socialist Program.

Thanks a lot, Brian. Such an honor to be here with you.

Well, we're very happy you're able to join you.

We're talking to you from Beijing, and you've been living in China for a couple of years.

You're with the Dongsheng News Collective.

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Marco, we want to talk about the state of Russia-Chinese relations.

This is a very important relationship to major countries, both members of the Security Council.

In 1949, when the Chinese revolution succeeded, Mao Zetong left China for the first and only time in his life to visit Moscow where there were months of discussions between Mao and Stalin. And it wasn't just the two leaders. There was a large entourage of Chinese specialists and political figures who were there talking with the Soviets.

And at the end of that journey, there was the creation of a Soviet-China friendship agreement

and an alliance, and it became sort of a core, a center of politics in the post-World War

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