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The President’s Inbox

The China Challenge, With Liza Tobin and Jake Werner (Election 2024, Episode 6)

The President’s Inbox

Council on Foreign Relations

Politics, News:politics, News

4.5698 Ratings

🗓️ 22 October 2024

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Liza Tobin, senior director for economy at the Special Competitive Studies Project, and Jake Werner, acting director of the East Asia program at the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, sit down with James M. Lindsay to discuss the challenges the next president will face navigating relations with China. This episode is the sixth in a special TPI series on the U.S. 2024 presidential election and is supported by the Carnegie Corporation of New York.   Mentioned on the Episode   Robert Atkinson and Liza Tobin, "The Missing Piece in America's Strategy for Techno-Economic Rivalry with China," Lawfare   The U.S. Election and Foreign Policy, CFR.org   Jake Werner, "A Program for Progressive China Policy," Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft  For an episode transcript and show notes, visit The President’s Inbox at: cfr.org/podcasts/tpi/china-challenge-liza-tobin-and-jake-werner-election-2024-episode-6

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0:00.0

Welcome to the President's Inbox. I'm Jim Lindsay, the Mary and David Boy's Distinguished Senior Fellow in U.S. Foreign Policy at the Council on Foreign Relations.

0:14.0

This is the sixth episode in a special 2024 U.S. election series here on the President's inbox.

0:21.6

From now until Election Day, I will be sitting down with experts

0:25.6

to unpack some of the most pressing challenges in the next President's foreign policy inbox.

0:30.6

This week's topic is the China Challenge.

0:36.6

With me to discuss the challenges the next president will face in navigating relations with China

0:42.2

are Liza Tobin and Jake Werner.

0:45.9

Liza is the Senior Director for Economy at the Special Competitive Studies Project, a non-profit

0:51.5

organization working to strengthen America's long-term competitiveness.

0:56.4

She worked for a range of government agencies for almost two decades, starting as an economic

1:01.3

analyst at the CIA, then as a special advisor to the China Strategic Focus Group of the Indo-Pacific

1:08.4

Command, and most recently as the China Director on the staff of

1:13.0

the National Security Council during the Trump and Biden administrations. Her work focuses on the

1:19.2

development of U.S. strategy and policies related to China across trade, economic, environmental,

1:26.4

in military issues.

1:28.3

Eliza's writing has appeared in numerous publications,

1:31.6

including foreign policy in the South China Morning Post.

1:35.3

She is the co-author of The Missing Peace in America's Strategy

1:39.8

for Techno-economic Rivalry with China, which appeared on the Lawfare blog.

1:45.7

Jake is acting director of the East Asia Program at the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft.

1:52.0

He was previously a post-doctoral research fellow at Boston University's Global Development Policy Center,

1:58.7

a Harper-Schmidt fellow at the University of Chicago, and a

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