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The Brian Lehrer Show

The Children Who've Died Waiting for USAID Medications

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

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4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 6 October 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

The Washington Post's Meg Kelly discusses her team's reporting on the Trump administration's USAID funding pause, which resulted in the deaths of children from curable diseases around the world.

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0:00.0

It's the Brian Larrow Show on WNYC.

0:13.0

Good morning again, everyone.

0:15.0

Now we'll look at some of the human cost of the Trump administration's USAID pause back in January of this year. Last week,

0:23.2

the Washington Post, maybe you've seen it, published an extensive investigation that found

0:28.0

nearly $140 million in HIV and malaria medications were delayed or never delivered, and the

0:35.1

children died while those medicines sat in warehouses,

0:39.0

miles from the clinics that needed them.

0:41.3

Joining me now to share her team's reporting on this is Meg Kelly, reporter at the Washington Post.

0:47.4

Meg, thank you for coming on. Welcome to WNYC.

0:51.3

Thanks so much for having me, Brian.

0:53.3

First, help us understand the timeline here.

0:56.0

The Trump administration paused foreign aid back in January shortly after he returned to the White House.

1:02.7

There was a public reversal within days, so to be clear on that.

1:06.3

But how long did the disruptions actually last? And big picture what happened during that period.

1:14.5

Sure. So as you said, you know, as soon as the president came back into office, he, you know,

1:21.2

put this 90-day pause in place. And then within days, you know, Marco Rubio said,

1:26.8

life-saving aid is going to continue.

1:28.3

We're going to keep pushing forward this aid.

1:30.4

What became tricky in there is each program needed its own waiver.

1:35.1

So there were plenty of programs that people and advocates said, hey, this qualifies as life-saving aid and should continue. The program that we looked at

1:46.6

is called the global health supply chain. It, you know, has an annual budget of more than $900 million

1:52.8

just for HIV and malaria aid, which are the pieces of it that the administration considered to be

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