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Federalist Radio Hour

The Children-First Case To Overturn Obergefell

Federalist Radio Hour

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.53.3K Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2026

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of The Federalist Radio Hour, Katy Faust, founder and president of children's rights organization Them Before Us, joins Federalist Senior Elections Correspondent Matt Kittle to discuss the devastating consequences the Supreme Court's Obergefell decision had on children and deliberate on the best way to recenter marriage and family to prioritize kids' rights. 

Read more from Faust here: https://thefederalist.com/2026/01/29/obergefell-has-harmed-children-for-far-too-long/

Learn more about the Greater Than campaign here: https://greaterthancampaign.com/about-us/

Learn more about Them Before Us here: https://thembeforeus.com/whoweare/


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0:00.0

And we are back. And we are back. With another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour.

0:21.7

I'm Matt Kittle, Senior Elections correspondent at The Federalist, and your Experian

0:26.5

Sherpa on today's quest for knowledge.

0:29.3

As always, you can email the show at Radio at the Federalist.com.

0:33.8

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0:36.7

Make sure to subscribe wherever you download your podcast,, of course, to the premium version of our website as well.

0:42.9

Our guest today is Katie Faust, founder and president of them before us and spokeswoman for the newly launched Greater Than campaign, advocating for the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn Oberfell and prioritize

0:57.8

children's rights. And that really is what this is all about. Katie, that is your background,

1:04.4

putting children's rights first. Thank you so much for joining us in this edition of the Federalist

1:09.9

Radio Hour. It's really good to be with you. us in this edition of the Federalist Radio Hour.

1:16.6

It's really good to be with you. And I was honored that the Federalist ran a piece of,

1:24.2

that I wrote last week called Obergefell has harmed children for far too long. And I just explain, you know, what was the impact Obergefell really had on kids? Because I think a lot of people look at that and say, oh, what was the impact of Bergerfeld really had on kids?

1:28.3

Because I think a lot of people look at that and say,

1:30.5

oh, what was the result of a Bergerfeld?

1:32.5

Gay people get married now.

1:34.0

But it's actually gone far beyond that.

1:36.4

There actually have been some very significant harms,

1:38.7

especially for children that resulted from that decision.

1:41.8

And we're going to say no more.

1:45.9

Yeah, indeed.

1:54.6

I don't think that people fully understand where things are today compared to where they were in 2015.

2:04.5

When the Supreme Court, thanks to Anthony Kennedy in large part, he wrote the opinion on all of this. How much things have changed. In fact, you're seeing some polling here that shows a lot of people have misgivings

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