You're listening to Breakpoint this week, where we're talking about the top stories of the week from a Christian perspective.

Today we're going to talk about the memorial service for Charlie Kirk over the weekend.

We're also going to talk about whether a revival is underway.

How do we recognize a Christian revival?

Thank you so much for joining us this week. Let's get to it.

Welcome to Breakpoint this week from From the Colson Center for Christian World View, I'm Maria Bear, alongside John Stone Street,

president of the Colson Center. We actually do have a lot to get to today. People like to tease me

for saying that about our program. But I do want to start just talking about our impressions from the

Charlie Kirk Memorial that happened on Sunday in Phoenix. And so many people were there,

people in power. Obviously, President Trump, Vice President J.D. Vance, spoke. The T.P. USA team,

Erica Kirk gave what I think was the most powerful talk of the day.

It was a long and to my mind a really beautiful ceremony, but there have been take after

take this week on what it meant, what it didn't mean, what it looked like, people are concerned

about it, people really loved it. So can you share what your impressions were? Well, it was

riveting at some level. Probably the most direct summary that I can think of is, I can't think

of a parallel to this. In other words, I think it was the largest evangelistic event in human history,

which is hard to say, right? Bigger than Billy Graham. So Billy Graham preached to a million live.

So if you want to do the numbers live, but when you add the social media component and

the number of times the individual clips were shared and the overall wake, a friend of mine

argued that, well, if you do Jonah and Nineveh, as a percentage of the population,

that was, that wins. And I'm like, all right, I can give you that. But there were remarkable

sharing of the gospel in terms of the statement was very clear, the songs that were sung right

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