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Radio Atlantic

The Chaos of AI Voice Cloning

Radio Atlantic

The Atlantic

News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.32.3K Ratings

🗓️ 9 May 2024

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

What happens when voices can be copied so well they can fool friends, family… and voters? Staff writer Charlie Warzel has followed the explosion of AI technology with a mix of fascination and fear. DALL-E, Midjourney, Chat-GPT. New leaps in AI tech seem to happen every month now. Recently, he narrowed in on AI voice cloning for a feature for The Atlantic. He and host Hanna Rosin cloned their voices and tested it out before a live audience at the Cascade PBS Ideas Festival. What are the promises of the technology? And what are the perils? Related Atlantic Podcast: How to Know What's Real  Subscribe here: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube | | Pocket Casts Get more from your favorite Atlantic voices when you subscribe. You’ll enjoy unlimited access to Pulitzer-winning journalism, from clear-eyed analysis and insight on breaking news to fascinating explorations of our world. Subscribe today at TheAtlantic.com/podsub. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:26.9

So a few weeks ago, my staff writer Charlie Wardzel introduced me to something that's either amazing or sinister probably both. Charlie's been on this show before, he writes about technology.

0:35.1

And most recently, he wrote about AI voice software.

0:38.7

And I have to say, it is uncannily good. I signed up for it, uploaded my voice, and man does it sound like me.

0:47.5

So of course what immediately occurred to me with all the different flavors of chaos this could cause in our future.

0:55.2

I'm Hunter Rosen, this is Radio Atlantic.

0:58.2

In this past weekend, I was in Seattle, Washington for the Cascade PBS ideas festival, it's a gathering of journalists

1:05.6

and creators, and we discussed all kinds of topics, from homelessness to the Supreme Court

1:11.6

to the nation's obsession with true crime.

1:14.8

Charlie and I talked about this new voice software,

1:18.4

and we tried to see if the AI voices would fool the audience.

1:22.2

So for this week's episode, we bring you a live taping

1:26.0

with me and Charlie.

1:28.1

Here's our conversation. So today we're going to talk about AI. We're all aware that there's this thing

1:40.7

barreling towards us called AI

1:43.0

that's going to lead to huge changes in our world.

1:46.2

You probably heard something, seen something about deep fakes.

1:50.4

And then the next big word I want to put in the room is election interference.

1:56.0

Today we're going to connect the dots between those three big ideas and bring them a little closer to us.

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