The (Changing) Prospects for the Climate (Robert Wright & David Wallace-Wells)
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🗓️ 22 August 2023
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Summary
0:33 Has David’s grim outlook on the climate changed? 20:15 How “global warming” became “climate change” 13:38 What wilder wildfires signal about the environment 25:02 Which climate measures are the surest bet? 31:41 Climate science’s time-scale problem 39:03 The pros and cons of carbon capture 48:20 Heading to Overtime
Robert Wright (Bloggingheads.tv, The Evolution of God, Nonzero, Why Buddhism Is True) and David Wallace-Wells (The New York Times, The Uninhabitable Earth). Recorded August 17, 2023.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcast. |
| 0:33.6 | Hi, David. |
| 0:35.5 | Hey, Bob. |
| 0:36.5 | How you doing? |
| 0:37.9 | I'm doing good. Glad to be talking. Glad to be here. |
| 0:41.2 | Glad to have you here. Thanks for taking the time. Let me introduce us. I'm Robert Wright, |
| 0:45.0 | publisher with a non-zero newsletter. This is a non-zero podcast. You are David Wallace Wells. |
| 0:51.5 | You write a newsletter these days for The New York Times, often about climate change, |
| 0:58.6 | but sometimes about other kind of planetary issues and issues about the future. |
| 1:05.3 | You wrote a book called The Uninhabitable Earth in 2019. |
| 1:13.1 | And that was a book, you know, I don't often use the word Jeremiah, but would you say |
| 1:21.0 | that it wasn't a very, it wasn't a super upbeat book, right, about climate change. |
| 1:29.7 | But then you wrote like a little less than a year ago. |
| 1:33.1 | You wrote a piece of times. |
| 1:34.1 | It seemed like you'd gotten in a slightly better mood about it. |
| 1:38.2 | So I wanted to talk to you about both ends of that. |
| 1:40.9 | Like how depressed are you now? |
| 1:43.6 | Because meanwhile, this summer, I think a number |
| 1:46.2 | of people who maybe hadn't been thinking a lot about climate change are finally getting a little |
| 1:50.9 | alarmed for reasons we'll discuss. So like, for starters, what is your state of mind at the moment |
| 1:58.5 | about the future of the planet climate-wise? Well, pulling back from me |
| 2:02.5 | just for a brief second, I think this is a question that I get asked a lot. I end up talking about a lot. |
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